Nintendo e3 thread 2
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jvd said:
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=ret&aid=6394
Do I get some kind of cookie now?
jvd said:
LOL, good luck with that - they are hard to track down. I got the US sales numbers from cube.ign
http://cube.ign.com/articles/579/579600p1.html
BTW, the dynamic highlighted in that article doesn't bode too well for GC either.
Geeforcer said:
Shift thier efforts to what exactly? Right now we have gba, gba sp, gba micro, gameboy player, and gameboy DS. How many home consoles and different versions of Gamecube are they supporting this generation?
But, if thier home console profit margin increases, I could see them shifting more resources to that market. ROI is higher on handheld hardware, but attach ratios are much better on home consoles, and software is where real money is made. Especially first party software.
I'd argue that in order for home console profits to increase, they need top shift more recourse to it right now. If they sit and wait for the margin to go up before putting more money into it, they will be dead in the water.
Division ROI is the overriding factor regardless of attach rations. If home console division ROI drops to single digits or even below zero while handheld unit is in healthy double digits, it will be prudent for them to drop it and re-invest the money in a much more profitable field instead.
Division ROI is the overriding factor regardless of attach rations. If home console division ROI drops to single digits or even below zero while handheld unit is in healthy double digits, it will be prudent for them to drop it and re-invest the money in a much more profitable field instead.
Evil_Cloud
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hey69 said:
clearly fake
but i think its funny
Heh, I have the original picture of that one. Normally, Miyamoto is holding a box of Belgian Chocolates. ^^
Geeforcer said:
If you are talking about revolution, I agree. At least with regards to thier home console products.
I'm sure there are many what-if scenarios we could consider, but so far, their home console market is profitable. There is definately a trend going on though, and if they can't turn things around or at least hold here, what you suggest will no doubt happen. Meanwhile though, they do make money on more than just thier handhelds, and they could end up doing better next generation. Just like MS could end up being profitable. Eventually. =P
Ninty is the most profitable of the three console makers. plus, Ninty games generally enjoy a high quality value. some of the mose talented game makers are a part of Ninty. the new Rev has an astonishing and classy design. they have a free online survice with unique atributes. Ninty looks set to put up a stronger challenge to X2 this time around.
if only Ninty could work out their 3rd party policies.
if only Ninty could work out their 3rd party policies.
Guys what are you even arguing. I am more and more sure of one thing: Nintendo will degrade into a niche console market (they already are) and will appeal to their younger audience as well as their hardcore followers. I predict Nintendo will fall slightly short of reaching those 20 million they got with GameCube. Will they ever be considered mainstream? No. Does it matter? No. As long as their fans are happy and Nintendo continue to make consoles for them and a profit at the same time - all is well.
God forbid that there are people like myself that wanted to see Nintendo rise and compete for first place again. It just ain't going to happen. There's no use fighting/bitching/debating/arguing over it anymore.
Perhaps this is Nintendo's strategy. They don't want to compete for 1st place - but they want us to buy their console in addition to either Xbox360 or PS3. It might work for me that way - heck, I was close in buying a GC anyway, so a Revolution will definately suit me fine when the price is right.
God forbid that there are people like myself that wanted to see Nintendo rise and compete for first place again. It just ain't going to happen. There's no use fighting/bitching/debating/arguing over it anymore.
Perhaps this is Nintendo's strategy. They don't want to compete for 1st place - but they want us to buy their console in addition to either Xbox360 or PS3. It might work for me that way - heck, I was close in buying a GC anyway, so a Revolution will definately suit me fine when the price is right.
gokickrocks
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nintendo needs to add this to their color selection
http://img59.echo.cx/my.php?image=nesrev4ow.jpg
http://img59.echo.cx/my.php?image=nesrev4ow.jpg
Geeforcer said:
Relax there. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. No big deal. I was going by my faulty memory that Nintendo was still well in the black. I'm sure they are still making money, but obviously no where near where they were.
Regardless, I still think to have a meaningful discussion about this, you folks need to sort out the criteria for determining success or failure.
Yes, I agree with you that GCN is pretty much kaput. But I'm sure overall, Nintendo is just fine - at least for now. What will the future bring? I don't know. Perhaps Revolution will do great. Perhaps it won't. Too soon to tell with the two big giants about to square off against each other.
It doesnt make sense why would Nintendo want to make less money as a 3rd party developer? You only need to go onto the internet, they have the most militant die hard fans of the three. Those people arent going anywhere anytime soon.z said:
Nintendo is just a 100 year old conservative, extremely traditional japanese company, unfortunately most of its fans are american. And they'll never understand how it does things.
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