Nice GOW/MGS4 Compare
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...and I don't care what you say
fine we're even. regardless there was nothing in the MGS4 video that was head and shoulders aboe anything I've seen in GOW. Other than the fact it was a long cutscene trailer that is. it looked great, but the comments like "I just cannot fathom how people are even comparing MGS4 and GoW..." are incredibly fan-ish.Qroach said:...and I don't care what you say
Well I'd say it's quite "fan-ish" to play down the impact of MGS4, when the entire Internet is alight with hype and excitement about, what everybody generally agrees to be, the best looking videogame trailer ever displayed. It's the small (but vocal) minority of GoW fans who were cemeneted in their belief that Gears of War could not be topped, let alone so soon.
And it's not just the fact that MGS4 looks incredible, it's also the fact that we know it was rushed, is nowhere near completion, is running on pre-final hardware, and is still running at a solid 60FPS. Those little things, in my opinion, elevate it even further above other games like Gears of War.
I'm just a huge fan of the series, and I was blown away by the trailer. I'm sorry if I seem passionate about this, but I am... I guess both out opinions might be slanted towards the franchise we prefer, but even the diehard Xbox 360 fans and non-MGS fans will admit... MGS4 was above and beyond anything we've ever seen before.
Qroach said:
Rubbish.
2.4GHz is 2/3rds of the final CPU speed.
The RSX (according to Epic's Mark Reign) is over twice as fast as the SLI 6800 Ultra and 7800 GPUs in the evaluation kit.
And not only that, the bandwidth between CPU and GPU (which is a HUGE defining factor in the next-gen systems) in the eval. kits is a fraction of the final hardware bandwidth. (Something like 35GB/s to 4GB/s, correct me if I'm wrong).
I'd say that constitites 'far' below final hardware performance.
seismologist
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Qroach said:
One of the main purposes of Cell is to assist with physics and animation.
remember this?
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scooby_dooby said:
Exactly the difference was night and day, I can say the same thing about Halo1\2 cutscenes in the "realtime" cutscenes the AA was cranked up along with the special effect and hig rez bumpmapping\textures. Man there some poeple blinded on these boads eithe r by their love for Sony or their hate for M$(or vise versa) these pics look so close it's not even worth mentioning. I like the geomety and style on MGS better but the lighting and some fo the textures look better in GOW. It's really going to come down to what YOU like better and thats about it.
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mckmas8808
Legend
c0_re said:
Ok now what about MGS3? Oh I forgot you don't want to be fair.
The same thing applied to MS3 don't kid yourself but believe whatever makes you feel better, sure the PS3 is gong to be like 50x better than the 360 and 30x better than a 3000$ PC your going to anyways so what the point. Either way I want to see what Bungie, Carmack and team Ninja can do with the 360 they were the ones to push the Xbox last generation(it certainly wasn't Epic) it will be the same this time around, it's not like GOW is even a 360 exclusive game.
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mckmas8808
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c0_re said:
I never ever in my lifetime believe that the PS3 would be 50x better then the 360 or 30x better than the high end PCs. Why did you even say that? And I would like to see what Polyphony, the ICO team, and Insomniac will be with the PS3 since they were the ones to push the PS2 last generation.
Why does it make so much differnce anyways, I'll own a 360 within the first week it's out and a PS3 with a month of it's release. My old Xbox is now a 500Gig acade machine with over a 1000 arcade, nintendo and other various emulated games and DVD's(blockbuster online rocks they must wonder how I watch so many movies) this is much more usefull than either of the next gen console will probably ever be, I can even download whatever TV's shows I forgot to Tivo transfer them to my Xbox and watch them whenever I want.
If you want to wait an extra 180-250 days to play next gen games because you don't like Microshaft go right ahead, I for one won't be.
If you want to wait an extra 180-250 days to play next gen games because you don't like Microshaft go right ahead, I for one won't be.
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scooby_dooby said:
Gotta agree here. As a last resort some people are also beginning to say MGS4 is probably doing more physics simulations in a cutscene which they know is only wishful thinking based on Konami marketing. Please leave the wishful physics talk out of this as there's nothing to quantify it.
skmanga said:
In action? MGS4 was a cutscene. GoW is gameplay. If you want to compare cutscene then compare the cutscene where the marines get off of the helicopter in GoW. THAT easily compares to what you see in MGS cutscene.
What I see here is people being blinded by a long marketing trailer graced with nice cinematography.
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mckmas8808
Legend
c0_re said:
I won't be buying an X360 at all. But that's not because I hate MS, it's because I will be sending all my videogame money on PS2, PS3, and PSP related stuff. There's more than enough things coming through those pipes that I can choose from. And there is nothing wrong with me doing that. Doesn't mean I can't talk about videogames on a nonbiased level though.
mckmas8808
Legend
These are some better screenshots of the video. Keep in mind these are not from the direct-feed.
What do you guys think now?
What do you guys think now?
I don't dislike, the general lighting of GoW because the lighting in GoW changes depending on if it's during the day or night. During the day it has normal daylight hues, during the night there is a purplish hue to the lighting and that adds to the specific setting of the game. MGS4 takes a different route by making everything greenish/yellowish.
Why is the aspect ratio distorted?
BTW anyone have a screenshot of the helicopter scene in GoW?
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