News & Rumors: Xbox One (codename Durango)

[Cyan]

This is my preferred Xbox One ad yet, showing the capabilities of voice command and relationships, injecting some humour with the general tone of the video.

This is actually how girl gamers look like.

 

[Jwm]

As I said before though, surely the best strategy for MS should have been to release a CE device, and not piggy-back their console? There's an extra $200+ of hardware in there not needed for the non-gaming services. They could produced a discrete CE device that'll appeal to the average household, and a far cheaper ($300) or more powerful console for their XBox audience, with specialist synergy with the CE device should they choose. XB1 seems an awkward fusion. I mean, it's great if you want both the console games and the CE experience, but if you just want the CE experience and don't care for COD, it's overkill. And if you just want AAA games and don't care for TV connectivity, it's a waste of resources. So XB1 as it is reduces it's appeal to a subset, rather than broadening to everyone, IMO. It's audience is the union of those who want AAA games (and are willing to take a sacrifice in quality there) and those who want a new, innovative interface for TV entertainment. Two discrete products could have covered both audiences and the crossover.

That device is called 360 - but they should drop it to $99 to make it more competitive in that market. That would be an easy direction to go anyway. If they made a true box to compete I doubt they would get any traction, and would leave it to die off.

I think this route has a better chance, but the TV implementation still worries me. I have a bunch of questions that probably will not be answered until I try it myself.

 

[Scott_Arm]

360 would make a shitty media box compared to say the Apple TV or other device like that which is smaller, quieter and more power efficient.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

That device is called 360.

360 doesn't have the TV integration.

 

[Cyan]

That device is called 360 - but they should drop it to $99 to make it more competitive in that market. That would be an easy direction to go anyway. If they made a true box to compete I doubt they would get any traction, and would leave it to die off.

I think this route has a better chance, but the TV implementation still worries me. I have a bunch of questions that probably will not be answered until I try it myself.

This video shows a perspective of outlook about how TV could work.

More videos -this one shows how the chat works for those not used to Kinect):

The Xbox One revealed video, tweaked to the present day.

 

[Cyan]

Last news today.... An article on why the Xbox is important to Microsoft.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/cons...crosoft-it-kills-apple-and-google-living-room

 

[Nisaaru]

360 would make a shitty media box compared to say the Apple TV or other device like that which is smaller, quieter and more power efficient.

Well, AppleTV is only "acceptable" if you can live with its content policy and with the Android Dual/Quad boxes you apparently need to live with XBMC problems at 1080p, lack of h264 drivers and whatever issues there are. Getting a NUC and setting that up yourself costs almost as much as a X1. If they'll offer mkv support or XBMC through the app system it would be only TV feature I would care about. But I don't expect that to happen.

 

[BeyondTed]

360 would make a shitty media box compared to say the Apple TV or other device like that which is smaller, quieter and more power efficient.

But the "E" revision is pretty quiet and power efficient. Already MS tracks a large percentage of users using the 360 for media [driving some of their choices]. I am not sure if the power usage has been measured for "E" with Netflix or other media consumption usage [likely very low].

And it is $99, at least on special: http://weeklyad.walmart.com/Walmart...motionviewmode=2&pagenumber=1&storeid=2495841

I imagine the Xbox One will get to similar prices eventually. Especially with one chip, DDR3 and maybe later all digital. Interesting to see what happens over 8 years with flash capacity and price.

 

[AzBat]

360 doesn't have the TV integration.

It might not have Live TV integration for doing overlay, but it has far superior catch-up TV apps than probably XB1 & PS4 combined. Yes, as time moves on XB1 & PS4 will catch up, but for now it's hard to beat 360 unless you've got a Roku box. At the $99 special price Walmart has that's one heck of a value. BTW, if MS puts too much of its XB1 TV features at a lower price, then what's the point of buying the XB1? I'm sure they will get there, but right now it doesn't make sense.

Tommy McClain

 

[warb]

some nice Xbox ads there. They're spending that marketing money well I think.

 

[RobertR1]

360 would make a shitty media box compared to say the Apple TV or other device like that which is smaller, quieter and more power efficient.

Picked up a Apple TV recently. It works best if you have a lot of Apple devices, which we now do. For that, it's amazing.

However the services offerings are anemic compared to the 360. It's a cool device thigh. Highly recommended for anyone with apple devices in the home.

 

[ERP]

Picked up a Apple TV recently. It works best if you have a lot of Apple devices, which we now do. For that, it's amazing.

However the services offerings are anemic compared to the 360. It's a cool device thigh. Highly recommended for anyone with apple devices in the home.

Yep AppleTV's killer app is airplay.
Outside of that the Roku is a better entertainment device, partly because it has more services supported, but mostly because Roku isn't a content vendor and so doesn't feel the need to promote their content at the top of the UI.

 

[RobertR1]

Yep AppleTV's killer app is airplay.
Outside of that the Roku is a better entertainment device, partly because it has more services supported, but mostly because Roku isn't a content vendor and so doesn't feel the need to promote their content at the top of the UI.

I have not experienced a Roku yet but to your point, NOT being a content vendor is a big plus when vying for services on your platform.

 

[Jwm]

It might not have Live TV integration for doing overlay, but it has far superior catch-up TV apps than probably XB1 & PS4 combined. Yes, as time moves on XB1 & PS4 will catch up, but for now it's hard to beat 360 unless you've got a Roku box. At the $99 special price Walmart has that's one heck of a value. BTW, if MS puts too much of its XB1 TV features at a lower price, then what's the point of buying the XB1? I'm sure they will get there, but right now it doesn't make sense.

Tommy McClain

Right now 360 is higher on my list for TV than X1 due to Media Center.

 

[Cyan]

News galore:

Major Nelson gives a white Xbox One to charity.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...ajor-nelson-gives-a-white-xbox-one-to-charity

The Xbox One games that went gold have started to ship already.

http://news.xbox.com/2013/11/games-gold

http://news.xbox.com/~/media/Images/Media Assets/Games/Xbox One/Misc/20131110 Games Gold/pallet2.jpg

http://news.xbox.com/~/media/Images/Media Assets/Games/Xbox One/Misc/20131110 Games Gold/pallet1.jpg

 

[AzBat]

Right now 360 is higher on my list for TV than X1 due to Media Center.

Yeah, there's always that too. Plus, it looks like if you're still using a 360 as DLNA client for streaming then it doesn't make sense to jump to XB1. That's the boat I'm in at the moment.

Tommy McClain

 

[Cyan]

New video showing the snap feature which allows you to multitask on Xbox One.

There is also a new personalisation video called "Your Xbox One" where Major Nelson explains how you can personalise your Xbox One with "desktop" backgrounds and stuff, but I can't find the link for some reason. I'd swear I've seen it somewhere.

 

[Nesh]

New video showing the snap feature which allows you to multitask on Xbox One.

There is also a new personalisation video called "Your Xbox One" where Major Nelson explains how you can personalise your Xbox One with "desktop" backgrounds and stuff, but I can't find the link for some reason. I'd swear I've seen it somewhere.

What MS hasnt showed is how it is like snapping without the use of voice commands. I hope they dont force voice commands as the only way to do multitasking. But they are pretty much motivated to do just that in order to highlight Kinect 2 and keep people using it so that they maintain its support.
Everytime he says "XBOX insert command here" I feel like I ll burst into laughter

 

[RudeCurve]

New video showing the snap feature which allows you to multitask on Xbox One.

There is also a new personalisation video called "Your Xbox One" where Major Nelson explains how you can personalise your Xbox One with "desktop" backgrounds and stuff, but I can't find the link for some reason. I'd swear I've seen it somewhere.

Photoreal...

Man I want one of the White Limited Edition dual tone Xbox Ones...it's so pretty.

 

[Rockster]

To do it with the controller you go to the home screen, select the "snap" icon (located just to the right of the large "last or running" app), and then choose the app you want to snap from the list available (this list is sortable). Not sure if there are any controller shortcuts to go straight to the snap app selection list. You can also use gestures. For example grabbing the screen edges with two hands and collapsing takes you home.

However, it seems that voice will be quickest and most intuitive because it requires the least amount of steps. And hence why they demo it like that. Voice basically allows you to group commands and bypass menu levels. Voice can also pass data into the launched app. So it can translate voice into arguments for search within the app you specify like the marketplace, internet explorer, youtube, or twitch for instance.