i'm in the same spot. Though writing 45 was a mistake! That was not the age group I was thinking of! lol
I was thinking of seeing seniors playing Wii in a retirement home.
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I was thinking of seeing seniors playing Wii in a retirement home.
I'm 46 & my game tastes have changed. I'm not buying a Wii & doing waggle though, but I'm not playing as much as I used to. I agree that gaming tastes do change as you get older. I have less time now that my interest has turned to my kids, but I'm a late bloomer. Helped raised 3 step-sons & got them into adulthood & out of the house. I then decided to adopt 2 more kids under 2. They are 6 & 4 now. I will be 62 will be youngest graduates high school.
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Aha ok. the list was only PS4 games.
I'm far away from 43 but i won't stop gaming ever either. In BF4 MP i know someone playing that's 67, and beeing rather good at it too
When I was younger i liked watching horror movies. i just don't care for them anymore.I'm 46 & my game tastes have changed. I'm not buying a Wii & doing waggle though, but I'm not playing as much as I used to. I agree that gaming tastes do change as you get older. I have less time now that my interest has turned to my kids, but I'm a late bloomer. Helped raised 3 step-sons & got them into adulthood & out of the house. I then decided to adopt 2 more kids under 2. They are 6 & 4 now. I will be 62 will be youngest graduates high school.
Tommy McClain
I'm 46 & my game tastes have changed. I'm not buying a Wii & doing waggle though, but I'm not playing as much as I used to. I agree that gaming tastes do change as you get older. I have less time now that my interest has turned to my kids, but I'm a late bloomer. Helped raised 3 step-sons & got them into adulthood & out of the house. I then decided to adopt 2 more kids under 2. They are 6 & 4 now. I will be 62 will be youngest graduates high school.
Tommy McClain
I have a son and less time for play and like many people in their 40's I don't play multiplayer games or games taking too much time like racing game or sometimes I don't finish long game like AC Origins. And I liked and finished the Witcher 3 but it took me half a year.
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lol easier to talk on the forums
This take less time and I can do it on a smartphone on public transportation or at job
when I finish my work. My next game is probably Death Stranding.I totally agree and I'm not disputing that, but I think many are overlooking a shift in the age of the average gamer as it's increased over the years and also that this is a sequel with much hype/anticipation.
Same. I still haven't finished Red Dead Redemption 2 or Crackdown 3. I will eventually. Can't believe I started Rise of the Tomb Raider the other night before finishing the others, but with it on Game Pass I'm more likely to finish it before it gets removed. I bought RDR2 & Crackdown 3 will probably never get removed from Game Pass, so no hurrying to finish those.
Tommy McClain
Yeah, I hardly play these days due to time restraints but I still buy games and I will be playing LoU2 without a doubt (provided it doesn't shift in gameplay as RDR2 didI think that's so ridiculously ageist it deserves a punch in the face.
Those >45 year old PS4 owners are likely long-term gamers. Are we to think that when someone hits 45, their taste in video-games changes completely to casual Wii-crap? Someone in their late 20s or 30s playing MGS, GTA, et al on PS2 is now all about waggle games and colourful platformers?
Why? That makes no sense and goes against the constant generational increase in console numbers. Every generation, console sales increase faster than population increase. That means more people coming into the market. If as many leave gaming as enter, the market size would have stabilised.
What is the reason for people to want to stop gaming? What do they do instead? When someone hits 45, does their interest in mind-engaging gameplay stop and they instead turn their attentions to knitting and woodworking? Go on long weekend walks? Or do they just slob in front of the TV nowadays instead of grabbing a controller? Are games 'too violent' these days 'not like this was all fields'?
Anecdotally, I don't know anyone who gave up gaming as they got older. Buying habits shift mostly due to different time constraints, and stats show interest in competitive play is lower in older gamers. But I don't know anyone who gave up console gaming in favour of casual gaming, and I certainly see no reason why older gamers would be more likely to move onto something else than younger gamers. I don't know if anyone has decent stats on console demographics though as mobile has completely changed video-game reporting.
Is the PS4 going to be $300 when PS5 is released?
I don't think it's unrealistic to expect a UK price of £200 vs £400 when PS5 launches.
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Most people that just want to "play TLOU2" and don't have a Playstation won't buy a $499 console for that. They'll take the $150 or $200 box. Like PS4 (even worse), I don't expect PS5 price cuts before 2 years.I'm not predicting anything either way WRT to this because of the unique situation it will launch into.
Basically PS5 will be coming out around half a year after the game comes out.
EVERYONE knows it'll run on PS5 or have a special PS5 version (similar to the first game on PS4).
People with a PS4 that want to play it will get it regardless. But people that don't already have a PS4? That close to PS5 launch? Basically anyone that doesn't have a PS4 and is thinking about getting a PS5 is more likely to just wait for PS5. And for people that haven't gotten one yet due to the cost of the console..I doubt this one single title will convince them to get one after all the blockbuster titles that have come out on PS4 in the past few years.
I think there's a good chance it may not shift much additional hardware but the game will sell in very large numbers. Then again it is pushing the LGBT thing pretty heavily, so maybe that'll help change some people's minds that don't already have one?
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I think Sony would even prefer those people buying PS4 instead of PS5:
- They'll still make profits on each PS4 sold as they already hinted that PS4 will make them money during the PS5 transition phase.
- They'll lose money on each PS5 sold in the beginning.
- Then a few years later, those people will want to buy PS5 when those will be more affordable to play the new TLOU, Spider-man and God of war, then Sony will sell those and make a profit on each units sold.
In the beginning PS5 will be mainly bought by hardcore gamers, the one who usually buy plenty of services and games and not usually just for one game.
And you know plenty of people bought PS4s just for God of War or Spiderman as NPD sales proved (and that was in the same year). Some specific games still sell hardware. TLOU2 will make people buy PS4s. It's probably going to make a new NPD record when it releases next year. (if we are lucky, it can still be delayed. I said it before the last delay, turned out I was right, I can still be right again.
)Ah ok your expecting a price drop for the PS4 then. Then yes people that want to play last of us 2 and can't wait 6 months are probably going to buy a PS4.
Not many will i assume, if the new PS5 base is 499 we potentionally have another PS3, and the PS4 could match or exceed the PS2 in totalt units sold.
Of course, why wouldn't it drop? Sales are slowing and it's still £250 (with a game) here...£200 by PS5 launch seems a no-brainer.
It's not a PS3, even at $500 it's $100 cheaper and (of course) inflation means it 'feels' less too.
Oh thought the PS3 was 500 dollars and 600 for the 60GB model.
You are correct, I did a google and only the 60gb price was shown. But it still stands that $500 next year is less in real terms than it was when PS3 launched. 2 years ago the PS3 launch at $500 was equivilent to nearly $600...so next year it'll be more than $600.
Most people that just want to "play TLOU2" and don't have a Playstation won't buy a $499 console for that. They'll take the $150 or $200 box. Like PS4 (even worse), I don't expect PS5 price cuts before 2 years.
I think Sony would even prefer those people buying PS4 instead of PS5:
- They'll still make profits on each PS4 sold as they already hinted that PS4 will make them money during the PS5 transition phase.
- They'll lose money on each PS5 sold in the beginning.
- Then a few years later, those people will want to buy PS5 when those will be more affordable to play the new TLOU, Spider-man and God of war, then Sony will sell those and make a profit on each units sold.
In the beginning PS5 will be mainly bought by hardcore gamers, the one who usually buy plenty of services and games and not usually just for one game.
And you know plenty of people bought PS4s just for God of War or Spiderman as NPD sales proved (and that was in the same year). Some specific games still sell hardware. TLOU2 will make people buy PS4s. It's probably going to make a new NPD record when it releases next year. (if we are lucky, it can still be delayed. I said it before the last delay, turned out I was right, I can still be right again.
I don't think there's any scenario where Sony would prefer people buy a PS4 over a PS5. They are going to want to sell every PS5 they can make to anyone who will buy one. Now there is surely a limit on how aggressively they will price the console in order to achieve that, especially since they are likely to be supply limited in the beginning anyway, but getting market penetration for your new console is going to take precedent over almost everything else.
I can only guess that included handhelds. This announcement is for the home consoles reaching 450 million. But then surely Sony has had the record there since PS2?
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