Agreed. Nobody would be complaining if it were built into the chassis of the console most likely. Not that such a design would work real well, but still. I think anyone who actually buys the console will immediately see it's 100% a non-issue.
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Agreed. Nobody would be complaining if it were built into the chassis of the console most likely. Not that such a design would work real well, but still. I think anyone who actually buys the console will immediately see it's 100% a non-issue.
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Hmmm, something just struck me about the following.
If true. And combined with my speculation that if Durango is able to do Bluetooth pairing with mobile devices...
What if this "new wireless technology" was just something as simple as Bluetooth? The possibilities then open up quite significantly. Imagine if they allowed the use of BT Keyboards for use with Web Browsing or text chatting. Easy pairing of BT headphones with mics. Even the potential for PC mice. And, of course, connecting to those BT enabled mobile devices. Allowing them to more easily control functions on the console.
It's probably pretty unlikely (MS allowing full keyboard and mouse on the console?), but intriguing to speculate on.
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4 people seems ideal to me. 6 might be good for simulating a mosh pit though.
Not necessarily, skeletal tracking for 6 people could be necessary for low energy games where participants are sitting down - like Buzz style games where you might need to use your fist on your palm as a buzzer (as shown in one of the original Kinect concept videos).
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http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/features/2013/feb13/02-11Xbox.aspx
Sad they are slipping in this sort of thing.
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If rumors are true about upgradeable Xbox's and frequent refreshes, it would be in our best interests to wait for whatever is in the next box. They could be deliberately holding back a more powerful console, but at the same time charging regular prices for this first version hoping to get away with the milk. Is everyone seriously ok with paying $3-400 + Live subs for 1.2TF and enhanced ads box in 20 f'ing 14? And like you said, the games will probably end up on PC anyways.
MS tried that with Vista and GfWL. IIRC, only Halo 2 on PC used the functionality before it was sent to the scrapheap. It would probably work better on current PCs, but I still wouldn't bet on it coming back seeing how MS appears to be valuing consistent user experiences.
Not much need to imagine - PS3 has had this since 2006.
I suppose the Durango devkit can enforce a certain game structure that allows for this, whereas a PC could have any code and data structures and the OS couldn't provide a transparent mechanic for that to play while installing. I wonder if game experience while playing is worse while installing, given HDD head thrashing and BW consumption? I suppose 3 GBs OS RAM would really help here with possible massive data caches .
One thing that's vaugely surprised me with all the noise and rumours flying around (especially with the current degree of 'negativity' surrounding Durango) is that Microsoft hasn't tried countering it a bit. With Sony's announcement due next week it seems to me that Microsoft should be doing something now to explain their 'vision' , instead we're getting 'Kinect required, no used games, always on, etc . (plus dropping XNA <grumble,grumble> . I guess they're waiting to see more detail on what Sony's announcing first but I'm still surprised.
Why fight a PR battle now when you're not ready to show your hand? Whatever grumblings people have now are immaterial to when people buy the consoles in many months' time. MS can just listen to people's complaints and draw up a battle plan to PR counter them when they are ready to, even they're even true. The important thing is generating buzz and excitement when Durango is ready to launch, and not way ahead of the game in a prolonged, expensive PR duel.
I'm not saying there aren't good uses for it, just that there are times where I want to sit down, veg out, and play a game. Sometimes, it would be considerate if I could enjoy my pastime without making noise, out of respect to other people or high-strung pets.Its where we're headed though..when new technologies come in..the old guard dismiss it as a fad or uneeded..preferring simple old stuff....it all changes
As long as standard control paths still remain, I don't mind.
My issue with requiring Kinect, is the same issue I have with PSEye, and it's not related to privacy, there is just no easy way for me to do this in my media room.
I'd need to run 25ft of cable to the camera to put it in the front of the room and assuming any future device is requiring more bandwidth than USB2, you'd need active repeaters, which may or may not be available.
I'd need to run 25ft of cable to the camera to put it in the front of the room and assuming any future device is requiring more bandwidth than USB2, you'd need active repeaters, which may or may not be available.
Because Sony called them new playing options.
I don't doubt MS would force everyone to buy it with every box, it's a gamble to have more developers support it with exclusive games, but forcing people to actually use it is crazy, there's no justification for such a move.
My guess is you'll be able to full navigate the menus and OS with a controller, if that suits you, but the voice and gesture control will be much more complete than it was with Kinect 1, and that will be advertised heavily. Currently to launch Netflix you have to say something like, "Xbox Apps, My Apps, Netflix." It wouldn't surprise me if you could just say "Xbox Netflix" from the home or root screen of the GUI, this time around. In other words, they won't force anyone to use it, but the experience will be much better this time around.
I have no idea what the OS is going to look like, but off the top of my head I can think of a lot of great ideas they could implement. Maybe while you're gaming with a controller you can say, "Xbox notifications" and a small overlay will pop-up in the top right corner showing you how many unread/unchecked notifications you have, with icons for twitter, facebook etc. Maybe you could say, "Xbox weather" or "Xbox scores" and see a scrolling banner with the appropriate information across the top or bottom of your screen. Seriously, there are a lot of ways this could go if Kinect is always-on. If I could compose a new voice message and send it to a friend without pausing my game, that would also be pretty cool, or initiate party invites or game invites all without stopping what I'm doing. The sky is the limit, really. From what the rumours suggest, they're reserving a good deal of resources for the OS, so my expectation is not what we have on the 360 with a few little features tacked on.
This is just turning very confusing by MS. If they come with this low end box and a high end box diluting the userbase
Why would any casual video watcher upgrade from a 360 anyway? There is every service they need already. Nobody will care for MS exclusive "interactive" videos
Why would any casual video watcher upgrade from a 360 anyway? There is every service they need already. Nobody will care for MS exclusive "interactive" videos
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bgassasins is confirming always online required for Durango (neogaf)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=47647432#post47647432
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=47647432#post47647432
That would be a huge mistake. There are a lot of offline consoles.
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