New Virtua Fighter 5 Pics!

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Laa-Yosh said:
Not even Fight Night 3 has as much geometry detail as that Tekken5 character, not to mention the textures. Have you seen the close-up of the face??
And then there's the usual texture filtering, antialiasing, lighting and shading quality that's far beyond anything realtime...

multiplatform + EA, doubt it'll look as good as it can on any console.

As for the tekken comparison it'll definitely exceed the psone cgi ones, the ps2 ones are already pretty close if not better at least in some aspects. The ps3 trailer on the other hand, that's a tough one indeed.
 
I'm honestly not sure which Tekken you are all talking about at this point, but when I say the Tekken CGI is light years ahead of VF5, I mean this:

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614753/tekken-next-20050516080618078.jpg

VF5 can't touch that, but it isn't as if the game will really look that good anyway.

This is, I believe, also what the original poster is referring to, saying VF5 makes him believe that Tekken will actually look like this. I disagree.
 
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Serenity Painted Death said:
I'm honestly not sure which Tekken you are all talking about at this point, but when I say the Tekken CGI is light years ahead of VF5, I mean this:

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/614/614753/tekken-next-20050516080618078.jpg

VF5 can't touch that, but it isn't as if the game will really look that good anyway.

This is, I believe, also what the original poster is referring to, saying VF5 makes him believe that Tekken will actually look like this. I disagree.


No the thread starter who is me thinks after seeing what VF5 can do so far makes me think this --> http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2291/virtuafighter524vk.png is possible.

I never said the face will be done. Why would I care if the face can be done? I won't be playing makeup artist with the guy's face.

Again just to make it known I think http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2291/virtuafighter524vk.png will be possible. And not because it will be on the PS3. I actually think the 360 will be able to do something similar too. And I never said it will be done next year either.

What pisses me off about some people here is that they may disagree with me on this, yet they never explain what's the limit that the PS3 or 360 can do. Weaksauce showed a Tekken CGI pic and nobody yet has said if they think it will be possible.

So I'm going to ask again to see if I can get a response. Do you guys think http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Games%20Zone/Images/Tekken5_big2.jpg will be possible? I think some people here are looking at the launch games and are gathering their opinion on what next-gen system will be able to do (Laa-Yosh not included).

So until someone can show me with some old PS2 or any current gen CGI what the limit will be with the next-gen machines then I will think that Tekken video can be done in real-time in the future.
 
Nobody honestly has a clue as to what the limit will be. It might also get pushed farther than ever before if Sony has its way as well, and keeps the PS3 out for nearly a decade (and MS follows suit, which is probably unlikely).

I'm certain neither machine will be able to touch high end CGI from PS2/Xbox. Won't even come close.

For example:

final-fantasy-xii-20040604015459185.jpg


I also posted that just because this is one of my favorite CGI characters ever.... so much emotion in his face!
 
Thank you Serenity Painted Death for answering what I've be questioning. I don't think that CGI pic will be possible either. But if something close to that is done I wouldn't be surprised.
 
mckmas8808 said:
So I'm going to ask again to see if I can get a response. Do you guys think http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Games%20Zone/Images/Tekken5_big2.jpg will be possible? I think some people here are looking at the launch games and are gathering their opinion on what next-gen system will be able to do (Laa-Yosh not included).

I don't know if you've seen the characters in the cutscenes for MechAssault2, but given that from the Xbox (realtime rendering), I would say that the above is doable in gameplay with the new tech.
 
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Understand at last, that some of the main defining qualities of any CGI movie are going to be unreachable for quite a while for pure performance considerations. Number of lights, precision and quality of shading, texture resolution and sampling, antialiasing etc. are all dependent on the underlying hardware's bandwith, math precision, etc. and thus are all going to be limited for quite a while, even on the next-next generation of hardware.
In these fields, even 5 to 10 years old CGI hasn't been surpassed yet in realtime graphics; and most of the catching up in the looks has to do with better tools and more experienced artists, and not performance. For example the UT2K7 characters have been modeled with technology and workstations that just weren't available some years ago, and that is why they can look more detailed than, say, FF8's CG characters. Back then, Square's artists haven't had machines with 2GB of RAM and 3GHz processors and fast OGL graphics, and neither were the 3D apps as advanced and easy to use as for example Zbrush (used heavily by Epic and others).

I think that by now, we've seen a good amount of what to expect from the nextgen games, and the rest will be about putting it all together; like getting MGS or Halo enemies look like FN3/NBA2K6 characters instead of the PD0 ones, or upping the levels to PGR3 quality, and so on... There's of course a lot of room left, but don't expect developers to overcome the strict quality limits of the hardware.
 
hmm

Ugh, the new pics just look ugly. I dont know what it is but the characters just look like they were photoshopped on the backgrounds. Backgrounds look like friggin old skool Neo Geo flat backgrounds. The depth perception is just weird.
 
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mckmas8808 said:
Here are some new screenshots

http://www.jeux-france.com/Webmasters/Images/6editeurs20051229_214749_4_big.jpg[IMG]

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I wonder if that water fountain in the back is using caustics like the eyetoy2 demo from e3.
Gotta love that self shadowing :)

I wish the characters werent so damn shiny.
 
I can't say I find those shots very impressive, I know it's a cliche now a days, but those characters look like plastic. Where are the impressive next-gen fighters?
 
Dural said:
I can't say I find those shots very impressive, I know it's a cliche now a days, but those characters look like plastic. Where are the impressive next-gen fighters?
Theres only two we have really seen. This and DOA4.

Tekken is still a no show since e3. Almost feels like the genre is dying, dont get me wrong the fighters still bring results and are all fun, it just seems like there are less and less of them every year.

I cant wait to see what other next gen fighters will look like, and if they will be bringing any old ones back. Def Jam should be interesting. I would love to see a next gen mortal kombat, bloody roar, dbz budokai, soul caliber, KOF, primal rage, street fighter etc. Hey, maybe even bring power stone back? lol
 
Yes, only two have been shown, but the two shown are the two I'd expect to be the most impressive looking based on previous games in the series. A new Powerstone could be good, I enjoyed 1 more than 2 though, what I'd really like to see is a new KI.
 
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