Microsoft Xbox Reveal Event - May 21, 2013
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yes that's a shame and I hope after years of buying apps on phones people would be used to digital content, even though those purchases are minimal in some cases, the overall expense of an eco system to some is huge.
As for game cases, I have converted al of my 360 disc games to DD and to tell you the truth I appreciate the HD on screen box art and look at it much more often (every time I load any game I see the box art for all the games) compared to having the box on a shelf.
thanks for the link , will read
It was planned from the beginning and it actually works through his own public words. That should be full stop. No deceptions.
By the way, one of the exclusives announced today was a Zumba Fitness 'game'. Since that's automatically dismissed by the core because it's primarily a Kinect experience, that leaves only 6 non-original exclusives in the first year. Add Kinect backlash on top of TV and we're now over 9000.
No, I have no Microsoft stock left. Sold the last a while ago, and left a ton of stock grants behind when I left. I do, however, have a sizable set of stock options in my new company, which may one day be worth something, if we make the product as ubiquitous as we hope to.
No idea on whether the new model will ruin game rentals. It's looking likely though. Maybe they will make a special category of disc that requires the disc in the drive, and then demand a share from the rental companies, like hollywood did with Blockbuster Video.
Oh, don't get your hopes too far up. I've seen it working in a proof of concept. Moving from that to real world can often be a huge jump. It remains to be seen if MS can pull it off.
It was planned from the beginning and it actually works through his own public words. That should be full stop. No deceptions.
By the way, one of the exclusives announced today was a Zumba Fitness 'game'. Since that's automatically dismissed by the core because it's primarily a Kinect experience, that leaves only 6 non-original exclusives in the first year. Add Kinect backlash on top of TV and we're now over 9000.
Zumba is HUUUUUUUUGE in the states... Hell my wife does it religiously on the kinect we have now. Lucky me
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Welcome to the world of...
- Turn based strategy gamers.
- Turn based RPG gamers.
- Flight simulation gamers.
- Space simulation gamers.
- Many other almost dead gaming genres from the past...
Just think, at one time, Flight Simulations were one of the top 3 game genres on PC. Now? It's barely alive.
Etc. It's interesting that when the NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, Saturn, PS1, etc. were all out, PC gamers considered all of them as casual gamers because games on those systems were so simplistic and easy (except for platformers as PC really didn't have platformers back then) compared to existing PC games of the time.
Consoles were considered in the same light as the Nintendo Wii, only for casual gamers.
It's funny that current console gamers are considered core or hardcore. Compared to PC gamers from the 80's and early 90's the console gamers of today would have been considered casual or ultra-casual.
The games industry continues to evolve. Without radically increasing the price of games, the only way for the games industry to survive is to broaden the appeal of games to draw in more people.
This is now happening with hardware as well. In order for the "core" game market to survive at the current price point that "core" gamers demand (60 USD games, etc.) then the console manufacturers have to do something to bring in more revenue.
Without pursuing more casual people and media services, the "core" game market might just disappears in a similar way to how the Flight Simulation market has virtually disappeared.
Going back to what I mentioned above. The market for Flight Simulation gamers couldn't grow as quickly as the PC game industry or even more importantly with the cost of developing those extremely hardcore games. Now it's just a blip on the PC gaming radar. "Core" games aren't in that dire situation yet, but I'm sure console makers and game publishers have noticed how quickly casual gaming has been embraced on the internet (Popcap style browser games), Wii, and now smartphones.
Those are virtually untapped game markets (Kinect had some success with the Wii casuals) that I'm sure Sony and Microsoft would love to tap into.
So, basically, for the "core" game market to survive, both companies are going to have to find ways to attract non-"core" gamers into not only buying their system but buying services (media or games) on their system.
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'Actually works' does not equate to 'Xbox is as or more powerful than PS4 due to cloud compute' as MS seems to be implying.
Go read DF's article on the matter and see who they agree with:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-in-theory-can-xbox-one-cloud-transform-gaming
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By the way, one of the exclusives announced today was a Zumba Fitness 'game'. Since that's automatically dismissed by the core because it's primarily a Kinect experience, that leaves only 6 non-original exclusives in the first year. Add Kinect backlash on top of TV and we're now over 9000.
This is not one of the "exclusives." First off its not exclusive, and second it's not an MGS game.
he exclusives announced today was a Zumba Fitness 'game'. Since that's automatically dismissed by the core because it's primarily a Kinect experience, that leaves only 6 non-original exclusives in the first year. Add Kinect backlash on top of TV and we're now over 9000.
Lol, the exclusives for the first year are not third party software, only Microsoft published games.
Half of those "exclusives" will probably be smaller, XBOX Live Arcade type of games anyway. If you get too excited, you'll probably end up terribly disappointed.
Yes, most certainly. And those Arcade games are always some pretty shitty stuff too.
The attitude against MS is back to the good old days. Long live Sony, they are always the best!
I really don't know why this attitude is necessary. It would put a lot more weight to any argument if Microsoft had been more specific about what kind of exclusives we can expect. It's not as if suddenly the Sony folks are louder - I think it's clear that even a lot of existing Xbox owners are overly critical of what was shown so far. Can't blame them as much as blaming Microsoft for chosing on how to present its product which is why things are turning out as they are IMO.
I agree to some extent - I'm finding myself on the side of Microsoft for many of the discussions, which typically happens when I feel one side is getting too much flack for the wrong reasons.
But what days are you thinking of exactly? Was that before the 360? (I wasn't involved in these types of discussions back then). Because for the 360, I don't feel that Microsoft got more undue criticism than Sony, to be honest (rather the reverse, if you ask me, though Sony did deserve a lot of the criticism)
Looks like somebody is feeling a bit sensitive.
I have never seen a statement from anyone from MS comparing the One to the PS4. As far as I'm aware, all of these comparisons are being made by others. Can you supply a quote?
because Laa-yosh pointed out some obvious bias?
You really think MS spent $1 billion on games to come up with some live titles? At least wait until e3 when they said they would show games, or are you worried you won't be able to after they do show their games?
I find it amusing Sony showed two more games in an extra hour and somehow they became the champion of the gamer. Every time there's something vague on these forums lately it means Sony is doing good and MS evil. The expectations are amusing. Get over yourselves it's going to be business as usual they are still Sony and MS.
Somebody's been here for a decade and this place is like home. Now uninvited guests are messing the place up all around.
Somebody is very controlled, for now.
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