Microsoft Xbox Reveal Event - May 21, 2013
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That strikes one bad thing of the list, in our case that wouldn't be a deal breaker since we kill all electricity to our TV setup to save money anyway
Just to make it clear, i expect to get a 1, much earlier than the 360. It looks solid (no RROD) it features Blu-Ray and my kids would love the Kinect 2 games. But without activation answers i simply wont invest in more than just the bare bones games for the kids. Same goes with the PS4. Steam and PC publishers will be happy
That strikes one bad thing of the list, in our case that wouldn't be a deal breaker since we kill all electricity to our TV setup to save money anyway
Just to make it clear, i expect to get a 1, much earlier than the 360. It looks solid (no RROD) it features Blu-Ray and my kids would love the Kinect 2 games. But without activation answers i simply wont invest in more than just the bare bones games for the kids. Same goes with the PS4. Steam and PC publishers will be happy
good news for families is that it appears that any game bought DD or DRM disc can be used by other GT or machines in the house.... you can allow in family settings
His best selling books include "Public Relations for Dummies", he touts himself as a specialist in crisis communications and he still operates a boutique marketing firm. He's as for sale as they get.
Sony have already confirmed there is no online requirement for the system.
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Billy Idol
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I wonder how this statistics works and if it is really relevant. This might be true now at the end of the console cycle. But I bet that in the first years, the years that made the console successful and are important for its character, basically only a minor minority used the Xbox for multimedia...all core gamers: playing games, paying Live to play games, downloading demos, generating the highest attach rate...so I say meh to such an argumentation.
U lose the core, u lose.
Billy Idol
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Oh no...not this discussion again...for me this sounds like pure bogus. Did you even test it?
All people on this board did moan about the blur quincux AA induced on PS3 ports and now all of a sudden people say the clarity of 1080p is not worth it and 720p is fine?
Billy Idol
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You mean like SSAA? Say with an internal rendering resolution of 1080p and project onto 720p output
I see it like this: both consoles are weak, in the sense that again we won't see many 1080p games, BF4 is already rumored to be 720p60Hz. So I just hope that devs choose whatever they think makes the best experience. It is just that I like good IQ as it is the thing that distracts me most...so I hope for 1080p and(!) good AA.
Blazkowicz
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You mean like SSAA? Say with an internal rendering resolution of 1080p and project onto 720p output
2.25x ordered grid SSAA isn't that good, 4x rotated grid SSAA is much better
Billy Idol
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Hm, depends on the game and on the look...hard to say this in the general case. Same as resolution...imo you can't say you prefer 720p with good AA over 1080p rendering...as it depends as well.
But I guess this is OT and I stop now...and boring discussion as well as we already had that not long ago.
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720p with good AA is definitely better than 1080p with no AA.
However, what devs could do is render at 1080p with no AA (or only post AA) and have a 720p output setting so gamers who prefer lower res with better AA can choose this supersampled 720p.
Even playing 360 games at 480p on smaller television sizes works great - when I first got Halo 3 for example it actually looked better on my old CRT than my Bravia - gee that game had some horrible aliasing issues, compounded by the sub 720p framebuffer.
However, what devs could do is render at 1080p with no AA (or only post AA) and have a 720p output setting so gamers who prefer lower res with better AA can choose this supersampled 720p.
Even playing 360 games at 480p on smaller television sizes works great - when I first got Halo 3 for example it actually looked better on my old CRT than my Bravia - gee that game had some horrible aliasing issues, compounded by the sub 720p framebuffer.
People whine because these things are new, and the uncertain negative climate begins there.
Some people are even threatening with the abandonment of consoles if this is what the next generation is going to be about.
The feeling of helplessness is what drives users to react that way. They are totally unpopular measures, and not that they have to be populist, but rational.
It doesn't make sense when you are in their situation. It's not like they need the money, and the hardware shouldn't be expensive to produce.
So.. unpopular measures, for what reason?
Microsot can afford losing more money than Sony.
Silent_Buddha
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Yes, they also include things like "The Everything Leadership Book", "Leadership Secrets of the Worlds Most Successful CEOs", and others. Just because he wrote ONE book for the mainstream masses does not mean that's the only thing he's capable of writing.
As well he's more a political columnist for the Huffington post while also occasionally writing up something about the tech world that would be of interest to mainstream people (Facebook, etc.).
Face it, he is far more in tune with mainstream people than all of the "core" gamers on internet forums. And hence his views more closely represent those of mainstream people. Or at least the more affluent mainstream people.
But I guess anyone that doesn't hate the Xbox One and gives their honest opinion of it, of course, MUST have been paid off by Microsoft. /sarcasm.
And as a columnist if he were to ever be caught taking money to write favorable things about something, he'd likely lose his position. You can get away with something like that for a small rinky dink news outlet like IGN perhaps, but not at a major outlet with millions and millions more readers.
Hell, I can't stand the Huffington post, but I have never thought their columnists were paid shills. They are certainly politically biased, but I believe they absolutely believe everything they write. And they aren't doing it because someone is paying them to write favorably about things they don't find favorable.
Yes, there is obviously no online requirement for all of the online social features they spent almost an hour touting at the PS4 reveal.
The online requirement for PS4 is quite likely to be almost exactly the same as the online requirement for X360. In other words, up to the publishers.I'm going to bet that even after PS4 and X360 are launched that people will spend more time on the Internet (either via smartphone, tablet, PC, and potentially console) than they do playing games.
I'm also willing to bet that the majority of people complaining about having to have their console connected to the internet...have their current console connected to the internet 24/7. I really can't imagine there are so many paranoid people that actually take the time disconnect their console from the internet whenever they play a game.
OMG, the internet requires an internet connection, whatever am I going to do if my internet connection goes down? I'm pretty sure the mainstream people that spend multiple hours everday on Facebook (playing games and socializing), Twitter, news sites, Popcap.com (playing games), forums, shopping, etc. aren't exactly sitting there shaking in fear at the thought that their internet might go down. Likely because their internet goes down so extremely rarely that it just isn't a thought. And when it does, they just go out or clean the house or do any other number of things.
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SB
It's old news but Eurogamer, among others, had an article on the subject time ago. What I am not so sure about is whether Sony are going to charge for the PSN this time around.
On a different note, if you are one of those people who have never beaten Ninja Gaiden on the NES, Xbox One will feature remote gameplay.
A la Teamviewer and so on. If you are having trouble completing a section of a game you can call up a friend on Skype and ask them to take over your game.
http://segmentnext.com/2013/05/25/xbox-one-will-feature-remote-play/
Silent_Buddha
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They are only unpopular with a very small minority of the buying public that takes the time to post in internet forums.
Pretty much everyone I know is already connected to the internet 24/7. Many of them purchase games on Steam, that can't be resold and require an online activation after which they can be put offline, but most people don't bother. Many of them play games on the internet which require an internet connection. Both casual and hardcore. Whether it be MMOs, multiplayer arenas (FPS, DOTA, RTS, etc.), Facebook games, or browser based Popcap style games.
Really, I haven't run into many that have expressed a concern about anything Microsoft has announced. Well, that is until I enter into this forum.
Then again, for most of us, despite spending 500-1000 USD on games each year, we aren't married to our consoles. And quite a few of the people I know spend less time gaming on their consoles than they do "other" stuff.
Regards,
SB
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No way, halo 3 was not better on sd television than on full hd.
Unless your early brava had really poor up scaling issues, we used a 1080i Panasonic plasma, and playing on that for a couple of months then logging in round my mates 480p tv was a horrible experience, it looked almost foggy in comparison.
Um, you do realize steam is the same model that you're complaining about on the consoles, right? Only worse, since you can't trade or resell a steam game...That strikes one bad thing of the list, in our case that wouldn't be a deal breaker since we kill all electricity to our TV setup to save money anyway
Just to make it clear, i expect to get a 1, much earlier than the 360. It looks solid (no RROD) it features Blu-Ray and my kids would love the Kinect 2 games. But without activation answers i simply wont invest in more than just the bare bones games for the kids. Same goes with the PS4. Steam and PC publishers will be happy
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