BenSkywalker
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Vince-
Branches.
Being able to compete on a performance level is what makes it nigh impossible.
This entire quote is way out there, are we talking real world or fantasy? A processor must deal with its platform, it is a major factor in its weakness compared to GPUs. Ray tracing as a rasterization process? You could simulate the effect using future shaders near perfectly, trying to run actual ray tracing on a CPU the memory constraints are going to kill you, there is no way around this for the forseeable future(not unless you plan on them having multiple GBs of eDRAM for the geometry load you are talking about).
And how does that explain its very poor shader performance? I don't expect it to tear up UT2K3, but given all the hype around it I expected it to hold its own on shader performance with then current GPUs(which it didn't/doesn't).
Look at the title of the thread again, then reread my first post in this topic and then look at numerous replies discussing exactly full software rendering. And what does x86 have to do with the sky being blue?
Zidane-
The general consense is that 1TFLOP is pushing it and iffy, I haven't heard anyone seriously consider the possibility of Sony's initial wet dreams
Panajev-
Are you reading one thread and then posting to this one?-
I did not post that, someone else did. I pointed out that 1TFLOPs alone wouldn't assume Sony so much as parity, then everyone jumped in to claim that Sony created God and they can do things we can't imagine
Considering the thread title, I don't see why people were thinking otherwise. I made it quite clear in my first post that of course Sony would have a rasterizer so it wouldn't need to rely on pure software. So the topic was based on what I responded to and then a few wanted to change it around in to something else.
Read the thread title and first post and maybe you will understand. I was pointing out 1TFLOP wouldn't do much if it was pure software, we need to know where Sony's rasterizer is going to fall before any sort of reasonable speculation can start as to where it will fall relative to its peers, unless you worship Sony as the ultimate deity that is
Faf-
I wasn't
Used to, GPUs are running them significantly faster now, and the gap is growing very quickly.
Marco-
DX9 has increased the precission four fold in terms of what GPUs can do. GPUs precission level is accelerating much faster then off line renderers.
Randy-
Pixar just moved their render farm to x86. Steve Job's own company now runs x86 for their most demanding tasks. In terms of cost v performance, x86 obliterates the higher end offerings.
A good approximation perhaps, no way are they going to pull off true radiosity in real time(a full break down on my 2GHZ rig takes about half a day per frame).
Branches.
Being able to compete on a performance level is what makes it nigh impossible.
This entire quote is way out there, are we talking real world or fantasy? A processor must deal with its platform, it is a major factor in its weakness compared to GPUs. Ray tracing as a rasterization process? You could simulate the effect using future shaders near perfectly, trying to run actual ray tracing on a CPU the memory constraints are going to kill you, there is no way around this for the forseeable future(not unless you plan on them having multiple GBs of eDRAM for the geometry load you are talking about).
And how does that explain its very poor shader performance? I don't expect it to tear up UT2K3, but given all the hype around it I expected it to hold its own on shader performance with then current GPUs(which it didn't/doesn't).
Look at the title of the thread again, then reread my first post in this topic and then look at numerous replies discussing exactly full software rendering. And what does x86 have to do with the sky being blue?
Zidane-
The general consense is that 1TFLOP is pushing it and iffy, I haven't heard anyone seriously consider the possibility of Sony's initial wet dreams
Panajev-
Are you reading one thread and then posting to this one?-
I did not post that, someone else did. I pointed out that 1TFLOPs alone wouldn't assume Sony so much as parity, then everyone jumped in to claim that Sony created God and they can do things we can't imagine
Considering the thread title, I don't see why people were thinking otherwise. I made it quite clear in my first post that of course Sony would have a rasterizer so it wouldn't need to rely on pure software. So the topic was based on what I responded to and then a few wanted to change it around in to something else.
Read the thread title and first post and maybe you will understand. I was pointing out 1TFLOP wouldn't do much if it was pure software, we need to know where Sony's rasterizer is going to fall before any sort of reasonable speculation can start as to where it will fall relative to its peers, unless you worship Sony as the ultimate deity that is
Faf-
I wasn't
Used to, GPUs are running them significantly faster now, and the gap is growing very quickly.
Marco-
DX9 has increased the precission four fold in terms of what GPUs can do. GPUs precission level is accelerating much faster then off line renderers.
Randy-
Pixar just moved their render farm to x86. Steve Job's own company now runs x86 for their most demanding tasks. In terms of cost v performance, x86 obliterates the higher end offerings.
A good approximation perhaps, no way are they going to pull off true radiosity in real time(a full break down on my 2GHZ rig takes about half a day per frame).
