Almost 3 Years And PS3's First Party Still Does Not Have A Killer App?
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Deja vu:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=368700
Still... well, I guess not? Sony's only killer app is GT. MGS4 was pretty big, all things considered -- it managed to actually sell PS3s, but I think that the WW audience sorta peters out at a little over 4 million.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=368700
Still... well, I guess not? Sony's only killer app is GT. MGS4 was pretty big, all things considered -- it managed to actually sell PS3s, but I think that the WW audience sorta peters out at a little over 4 million.
I though the success depending of the hardware marketing success and not for a simple k.a. game, just see the wii...and the k.a. on the ps2 exist because the ps2 hardware selling and not the opposite I knew.I think it boils down to who bought the ps3.
I truly think a very large portion bought ps3 due to it being a cheap but high quality BR player.
Others bought it due to this factor along with it being a new games system, but they just aren't into games as much as they used to be, but the cost of the games portion was small enough to tack onto the BR price.
Now with BR costs coming down into the $200 price point, sales of ps3 are slowing.
This is my thesis on why software sales are so low on ps3. The percentage of owners that are "casual" gamers is very high.
I truly think a very large portion bought ps3 due to it being a cheap but high quality BR player.
Others bought it due to this factor along with it being a new games system, but they just aren't into games as much as they used to be, but the cost of the games portion was small enough to tack onto the BR price.
Now with BR costs coming down into the $200 price point, sales of ps3 are slowing.
This is my thesis on why software sales are so low on ps3. The percentage of owners that are "casual" gamers is very high.
Wasn't it packed in with ps3's?
Not exactly. The software sales and tie ratio of the games is proportional to media userbase and higher than the wii...
Did you not just look at the OP?
Which game on that list sold a million in the first month?
Now go ahead and compare that to Gears 1 ... way back when there were less than 10 million xbox360's WORLDWIDE.
The OP has a point. There isn't a killer app that has pushed sales. KZ2 could have been ... it was close, but it was missing something.
Yep. It sold about 220k bundles in June. And that month's sales were about 200k above what Sony sold in May.
But you're getting mixed up here. We've been over this over and over and over, but you're saying that PS3 owners don't really buy games, and 3rd party sales don't bear this out. That they're not really drawn in by first-party games, yeah, you'd have something there, though we've discussed that before too, I think.
I know the software selling on the ps3 and only the first parties not selling on the ps3.
Yes it was. Pre-orders sold out a month prior I think for the Steel Edition.
We're talking about killer apps.
Something that makes people go to the store and plunk down hundreds of dollars to say "I want to play that, now".
With that said, where is the killer app?
As I said years back, the more expensive the price, the better that experience needs to be.
Others were talking LBP and Ratchet and Clank ... I knew neither of these would move a $400 box. Those are "kid" type apps that most wouldn't run to the store and drop that kind of cash.
KZ2 on the other hand could have been.
MGS4 did to some degree, but not significantly.
Point is it would have to be something outstanding and targeted to an audience that could afford to drop $400 on a box and a grand on a HDTV.
In proportion to their userbase, ps3 owners are hardly busting down the doors to buy games.
At the minimum, one can say the ps3 userbase is less gamer oriented than the xb360 userbase. I believe this is directly related to BR.
The gift and the curse.
Well, probably, sony missing how like to ps3 fan. I mean 'probably' with an huge imho: killzone 2 is a fps , when a fps is a k.a. on the playstation? LBP is a game 'atypical' and I'm not surpriesd of its flop...combined with higher price on the market well...I'm not so surprised of these results at the end.
No. You are wrong. EA & Ubisoft report not said that, sorry.
It's a relationship really.
The lower the price, the lower the bar to bring people to the store, thus a midly interesting title can move systems if they are cheap enough.
The more expensive the box, the more impressive the software will have to be.
SOCOM & R&C ?
Selling good but not surely k.a. The only is GT; it remains only the third parties on the playstation. Playstation = third parties in the past. This is the reason of the unsuccessful I though.
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Assurdum is saying games in general sell proportionally well on PS3, so it's not generally a problem with user base. Perhaps the games listed are unfamiliar, or miss the mark where the user base is concerned.
It is also possible that the PS3 audience is older, and hence more busy and less likely to impulse buy unless the game managed to recall their childhood gaming experience. It could also mean that the audience balances their purchase in both Blu-ray movies and games, etc.
It means the game launched at the right time, was marketed well, and resonate with the user base.
You have to look at all the software to characterize the user base. A particular game like KZ2 may have its own inherent issues (see related KZ2 thread) that made it perform less than expected. LBP has a revolutionary but hard work mechanics; it is said to have long legs, and sell DLCs very well. R2 dissappointed its fans by changing the core gameplay; the backlash and inconsistent visual quality diluted its impact. Uncharted may be too new (and doesn't stand out to the hardcore players who may be looking for a different theme). Let some of these games run for 1-2 more rounds and we should be able to see clearer what they truely are.
OK, well as of this months NPD we have:
32 titles that sold over 20k on xb360
17 for ps3
We also have many great ps3 games that were pushed with marketing dollars and were critically acclaimed, yet again, not one title pushed through a million in the first month.
Conversely, we have Gears that pushed through a million and grew from there on a userbase about half the size of ps3's current.
