Formula 1 - 2015 season

Can't read anything into these times because we don't know the fuel loads or if the engines were cranked up to 11 or what kind of state the ERS-system is in.

Still, I hope Alonso didn't leave Ferrari just as they build a real contender. grumble grumble :(
 
Still, I hope Alonso didn't leave Ferrari just as they build a real contender. grumble grumble :(
Wasn't Alonso supposed to be the magic "car developing driver who would for sure develop a world champion winning Ferrari"? :runaway:

If only he had gone to Lotus instead of Ferrari, we could have add one more to this :LOL:
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Here is the Autosport Live comment concerning Hamilton's time:

Hamilton ending that run on the mediums after just three laps. A performance run to see what was in the white-walled Pirellis? Ominous if so.
 
Anyone really expecting the other teams to have caught up is looking through rose tinted spectacles.

I bet even with that time the engine was set as low as possible.

Only team likely to challenge is red bull and it seems Renault have made little progress so that's unlikely too
 
Hopefully, the mercs won't dominate the same way they did last year... well we will see in Melbourne... Ferrari looks better this year, and I believe Ricciardo will be even better this year. The Maclarens probably need some time to adjust, but good to see Honda back.

Go Kimi!
 
Alonso had curious accident today. The official explanation says high winds caused it. However, something just doesn't add up.
- According to Vettel, who was driving behind him, they were both driving around 150 KPH, not too fast. He says that it looked like "Alonso just turned right into wall"
- He was rushed on a stretcher to helicopter and flown to hospital, if it was just "routine crash" at 150 KPH this shouldn't happen
- According to Sky Italia's reporter, Alonso lost consciousness just before the accident - this would explain "just turning right into wall"
- There's rumours going around the paddock that Alonso actually got electrocuted by the car, McLaren has had some ERS issues - this would explain why he would have lost consciousness

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Further evidence suggesting it was really something else comes from the fact that the car didn't actually get much physical damage at all
 
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http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/1...testing-at-barcelona-and-is-taken-to-hospital

Following suggestions the Spaniard may have either fainted at the wheel of the MP4-30, or received an electric shock, McLaren have insisted that the nature of Alonso’s accident was not unusual.

"Fernando’s accident was just one of those things that happens in testing," said team boss Eric Boullier. "Fortunately, he’s fine, but was concussed during the accident, which therefore required an overnight stay in hospital as a precaution. That’s normal practice after a concussion.

"Inevitably, some media reports have sought to exaggerate the severity of the incident – it was just a normal testing accident."

The accident happened shortly before Sunday's scheduled lunch break. Observers described the McLaren, which was travelling relatively slowly at the time of the crash, as suddenly spearing across the circuit before banging into the trackside wall.

McLaren Racing Director Eric Boullier says Fernando Alonso has been given the all-clear after being taken to hospital following a heavy crash in testing

"The speed was slow – maybe 150kph," Sebastian Vettel, who has replaced Alonso at Ferrari for the 2015 season, said. "Then he turned right into the wall. It looked strange."

The gusty wind which disrupted Sunday’s running, and which was cited as the cause of Carlos Sainz’s high-speed crash, is one possible factor in Alonso’s puzzling accident.

"It was so windy it made it so difficult to learn anything as the car was all over the place," said Mercedes driver Nico Rosberg. "It was totally different one corner to the next depending on wind direction and it was really, really challenging."
 
Meanwhile the "just in case overnight at hospital" has now changed into "intensive care for up to 48h"

Also, the car suffered minimal physical damage, it all just doesn't add up. There's clearly something McLaren isn't telling
 
Crash:
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Alonsos car, virtually no damage, front wing missing though (seen in first photo flying around in pieces). Also a lot of medical personnel
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Being carried to helicopter, covered by sheets so cameras can't get a shot of him
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Seems to be OK at the hospital, but still has intravenous drip (?) and a bunch of wires suggesting EKG/ECG
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Alonso had curious accident today. The official explanation says high winds caused it. However, something just doesn't add up.
- According to Vettel, who was driving behind him, they were both driving around 150 KPH, not too fast. He says that it looked like "Alonso just turned right into wall"

Yes.
That is very strange. The third corner at the Barcelona circuit will always, by g-force (not Nvidia :LOL:), push the car outwards to the left, not inwards to the right! And yet, Alonso manage to steer the car in opposite direction?
Something must be serious wrong either the car or a medical condition.
 
As news sites have already pointed out, Maldonado had basically the same off in the race last year.
 
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Why is there skidmark for only 1 tire?

One thing is certain, McLaren is hiding something, the question what and why.
Nothing in the accident, or how it was handled, is normal

Here's quick summary:
Crash itself:
- Car suddenly turning towards wall. Not a spin or anything like that, with no known damage in car to cause it (some suggest he went wide, on astroturf, and then lost control going right but what Vettel saw behind him doesn't support this)
- Relatively minor crash, speed at the start around 150kph, Alonso was braking so impact speed is surely lot lower
- Practically no damage to the car aside missing frontwing (which was seen in one of the photos flying in pieces after he was out from track), further suggesting minor crash
- Alonso downshifting while full on brakes, which according to Brundle is highly unusual if you've lost control of your car (https://twitter.com/MBrundleF1/status/570146553320644608)

The aftermath:
- Crapload of medical personnel, you don't see this many practically ever unless something really serious is known to have happened to the driver
- Holding the blankets on track to hide the driver, this never happens unless they know something serious happened to the driver
- Using stretchers after such minor crash? What could have caused in such crash cause Alonso to need stretchers
- Rushing into hospital, again covering the visibility with blankets, with helicopter quickly after crash for "overnight checkup" after what was relatively minor crash. Helicopters are normally used only when there's actually a known reason to hurry, ambulances are normally used if the medical facilities on site aren't enough
- "overnight checkup" turning suddenly into 48h(+)

Meanwhile, Sainz had the normal procedure after his crash, which was heavier based on damage caused to car - no extra medical staff everywhere, no hiding behind blankets, no stretchers, just normal checkup at circuit medical facility and he was good to go.

Official reason for the crash is "gushy wind".
 
Skids on one tire is nothing unusual - that is coming from the unloaded tire, the loaded tire (dependant on the application of the brakes) is more likely to still be rotating (and you can see the tire mark from that as it comes off the tarmac). The impact force was reportedly 30g, and from hit he suffered a concussion.
 
One thing is certain, McLaren is hiding something, the question what and why.
Nothing in the accident, or how it was handled, is normal

I am not saying that there can't be anything more to it but I think you are perhaps a little too quick to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon. Given what happened to Bianchi last year, coupled to the close proximity to the start of the new season and I can understand both local track marshals & McLaren themselves being a bit over protective of their driver too. The last thing McLaren needs is any possibility of lasting injury or impairment of arguably their star driver just before the first race of the season. There have also been plenty of strange crashes over the years that panned out counter-intuitively until you get a grasp on the complex interaction of front/rear/side to side down-force, grip differences between tyres similarly around the tyre under certain conditions or whether one wheel is running on the white lines/astro- turf and yes local track per corner wind conditions etc.. etc.
 
Regardless of all, FIA has announced that they'll investigate this crash thoroughly even though tests aren't actually under their jurisdiction.
They want to know what happened, why it happened and could something be done to improve safety
 
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