Formula 1 - 2013 Season

Fuck the FIA. This season sucks. Tyre lottery from track to track.

No it's not, some teams just failed to do cars for these tires, Lotus didn't and Ferrari did quite good too.

What you're saying is like saying that Renault is to blame for Caterhams pace, "they couldn't do a proper engine for them", or that Red Bull is to blame for Caterhams pace because they're responsible for the transmission, "they couldn't do a proper transmission for them"
 
the problem with the current tyres is that you can't even push for the whole race even with stopping 4 times. Ideally, the one doing more stops shouldn't preserve the tyres too much. Either they need to bring the harder compound or give more tyres. They don't need to change the durability, but definitely need to fix the reliability (fixing the delamination).
 
the problem with the current tyres is that you can't even push for the whole race even with stopping 4 times. Ideally, the one doing more stops shouldn't preserve the tyres too much. Either they need to bring the harder compound or give more tyres. They don't need to change the durability, but definitely need to fix the reliability (fixing the delamination).

You can push just as much "full race" as ever before, there's always some limiting factors on how much you can push but never in modern F1 you can actually "push" through whole race, you have to save fuel, you had to save tires before too etc etc. Barcelona has been won at least 3 times in a row now with 4 stops, and there has been other 4 stopper wins in past too at leas in mid 2000's

This time tires are bigger factor than before for some teams, but for example Lotus has absolutely no issues with them and Ferrari only little if any.
 
If that were true, Marussia and Caterham would also be up in the top 10. Guess what? The big teams are at the front.

If the top finishers in races were Red Bull, Ferrari and McLaren with Lotus & Merc right after them, no-one would be whining.
 
It's funny how Rosberg is doing currently compared to Hamilton.
I always suspected Nico was very quick, which showed when Schumacher was partnering him, but to consistently be 0.2s - 0.4s quicker than Lewis after 4 races is surprising:!:

Who knows, maybe because of competitive nature both drivers have, at least one of them will crash in tomorrows quali? This would gave a chance for other teams to fight for front row :LOL:
 
And when Hamilton was on pole how did he manage that lol.

I said on average not every time ...
Besides don't be upset as my point was more to show that Rosberg is a very good driver rather than Lewis is bad (which he is opposite of).
 
Hamilton does seem to have gone off the boil a bit yeah, but no doubt Rosberg is a very quick driver. Don't think anyone ever did doubt that.
 
Hamilton does seem to have gone off the boil a bit yeah, but no doubt Rosberg is a very quick driver. Don't think anyone ever did doubt that.

Need to check last season stuff and pre-season too, but I'm quite positive that most here and other forums were boasting how Rosberg won't stand a chance against Hamilton and only was looking good before because Schumacher had become slow after he quit the first time
 
Hamilton does seem to have gone off the boil a bit yeah, but no doubt Rosberg is a very quick driver. Don't think anyone ever did doubt that.

I'll just leave these here... Some related, but other funny stuff too.


Hamilton will show everyone just how good he is in 2013 when he puts Rosberg to shame.

I sometimes wonder if people really realise just how incredibly fast Hamilton is. Obviously too many don't, and the great thing about 2013 season is you'll be left staggered and in no doubt about it. He'll be four tenths faster than Rosberg in qualifying from the first race.

Also if Rosberg is only 3-4 tenths behind then you'd expect Hamilton to be level once he gets to grip with the car.

Rosberg must be getting that sinking feeling. He thought he was great and for good reason - he put the most successful driver ever to shame. But 2 races in he's being schooled by Hamilton already.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1699524&postcount=151

Hamilton has gone to a new team and outqualified his teammate by half a second and nearly a second. He's outraced him twice.

Nobody is making excuses for Hamilton - he's so clearly superior to his team-mate it's not even debatable.

Fact is, Hamilton has gone to a new team and completely blown away an extremely competent racer in Rosberg.

Nobody who actually had a clue about F1 could have been surprised by this. I told you it would happen because *Hamilton is in a different league*.

Hey you said Rosberg is competent! I guess that erases everything away :)

I'm basically just protecting the point I made a while ago, and still believe, which is that Hamilton is a cut above most drivers and will prove it.

I said Hamilton would outqualify Rosberg by 4 tenths from the first race and I was wrong - he was actually half a second faster. Next race it was 8 tenths in qualifying. In the races Rosberg has looked very strong but he's still behind.

Hamilton is a tier above. He's a tier above Rosberg, and that basically means he's a tier above everybody who isn't Alonso or Vettel.

Apart from Button I can't see anybody really getting close to Vettel.

This is about the whole season... during pre-season. Can I borrow your crystal ball mate :)

I got pelters for saying Button was the only driver capable of stopping Vettel this season but he put in a solid race today and is clearly ahead of Perez at the moment. I can't see any of the other cars improving enough to catch the Red Bulls.

Raikkonen isn't good enough to make himself a clear #1 or he would be at Lotus. Grosjean is faster and will probably beat him in most races this season (if he's calmed down a bit).

Calling Hamilton as winner btw!

Give Hamilton a sniff and he'll take it. This is the win I said Hamilton would get.

HAM ftw. I called it months ago!

would love to see Ham go at it in the same car as the rest. Would be embarrassing though, nobody is even close.

You post a lot... :)
 
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You can't argue with what I've said about Hamilton really but sure I got Raikkonen and Grosjean wrong so far. My Button comments were based simply on my belief that only McLaren could stop Red Bull. In the end the tyres might be their undoing (no way am I writing off Vettel yet btw).

I said Hamilton would be on the podium at least twice and win once this year (when everybody else was saying no way). The win hasn't come yet but it surely will. http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1699533&postcount=153

I said he'd outqualify Rosberg by 4 tenths from the first race, and first 3 races he averaged 6 tenths faster (!). ;)

He has beaten Rosberg in 4/5 races in a new team.

You can't deny Hamilton is different class, but nobody is denying Rosberg is very capable. Hamilton is just going through one of those phases and struggling with the crazy tyre situation with a new type of car as well.
 
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Since we are doing quotes one of my favourites :

Don't confuse yourself. vettel is not one of the best drivers. He is just a doll in the top management's hands put there just because of their egos and to have their own winner. Otherwise he doesn't even deserve to race in F1.
And yes, in next races the gap won't be 40 seconds, but vettel will be lapped multiple times
 
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