Formula 1 - 2013 Season
- Thread starter Dave Baumann
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Well you cant accuse Briatore of weakness, he ordered one of his drivers to drive into a wall
Apparently that was the drivers "idea" - a very bright spark with a great career in F1 currently.
Funny take on Malaysia: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/formula-one-launches-race-unfixing-probe-2013032663802
Billy Idol
Legend
Lol, great!
Regarding the Mercedes team-order, there's a very good article/interview in Auto Motor und Sport (AMuS) where Ross Brawn explains the reasons behind not letting Rosberg passed Hamilton:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...-beide-fahrer-mit-spritproblemen-6802387.html
Link is in German, so I'll just translate the important points:
- At the post race interviews, Hamilton, Rosberg, Wolff and Lauda did not know the full extend of the fuel-saving situation
- The cars need to be fueled 2 hours before the race starts, at which they calculated worse track conditions
- "Overfueling" would have ment overal slower lap times because of the added weight and strain on tyres.
- The race was a lot harder and quicker than anticipated, hence why they used more fuel
- To reduce the impact of the underfuel, Nico and Hamilton only did 3 warm-up laps before parking their cars on the grid for start preperation
- When Rosberg and Hamilton had caught up to each other, they had both received the "lift and coast" command to save fuel
- Rosberg was using less fuel because he was driving in Lewis' slipstream and DRS
- Brawn stopped the battle on lap 44
- Brawn states that both drivers had received orders to save fuel at least 10 laps earlier
- If they had continued to battle against each other, both drivers would have been unable to complete the race
- If Rosberg had passed Lewis, Lewis would have been at the advantage of using less fuel because he would have been following Rosbergs slipstream
- Leading driver gets strategy advantage.
- Nico wouldn't have been able to persuit the Redbull because he would have run out of fuel.
Brawn also explains in the article that the first thing they do when running low on fuel is to give the order "lift and coast" to the driver. It's up to him to adapt and lift earlier before corners to save fuel. Only if things get really crucial, they use engine settings to reduce the amount of fuel their using.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...-beide-fahrer-mit-spritproblemen-6802387.html
Link is in German, so I'll just translate the important points:
- At the post race interviews, Hamilton, Rosberg, Wolff and Lauda did not know the full extend of the fuel-saving situation
- The cars need to be fueled 2 hours before the race starts, at which they calculated worse track conditions
- "Overfueling" would have ment overal slower lap times because of the added weight and strain on tyres.
- The race was a lot harder and quicker than anticipated, hence why they used more fuel
- To reduce the impact of the underfuel, Nico and Hamilton only did 3 warm-up laps before parking their cars on the grid for start preperation
- When Rosberg and Hamilton had caught up to each other, they had both received the "lift and coast" command to save fuel
- Rosberg was using less fuel because he was driving in Lewis' slipstream and DRS
- Brawn stopped the battle on lap 44
- Brawn states that both drivers had received orders to save fuel at least 10 laps earlier
- If they had continued to battle against each other, both drivers would have been unable to complete the race
- If Rosberg had passed Lewis, Lewis would have been at the advantage of using less fuel because he would have been following Rosbergs slipstream
- Leading driver gets strategy advantage.
- Nico wouldn't have been able to persuit the Redbull because he would have run out of fuel.
Brawn also explains in the article that the first thing they do when running low on fuel is to give the order "lift and coast" to the driver. It's up to him to adapt and lift earlier before corners to save fuel. Only if things get really crucial, they use engine settings to reduce the amount of fuel their using.
Not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I have just seen the trailer to the movie "Rush" which is on the rivality between Hunt and Lauda (and his accident).
It looks very promising IMO.
Brühl (Inglorious Basterds) plays Lauda and Hemsworth (Thor) Hunt. In Europe I think it premiers in October this year.
It looks very promising IMO.
Brühl (Inglorious Basterds) plays Lauda and Hemsworth (Thor) Hunt. In Europe I think it premiers in October this year.
McLaren know what's up with the car, apparently - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22076363
Should be interesting to see what the updates are in China. I really do hope they are competitive for the sake of the season...
Should be interesting to see what the updates are in China. I really do hope they are competitive for the sake of the season...
You probably wont be able to see most of the important ones. Apparently the major issue was diffuser stall; or at least in Adelaide it was diffuser "buffeting" whereby it was attaching and stalling periodically, dependant on the bumps on the track. In Malaysia they did a little better by getting rid of the buffeting by raising the ride height but the diffuser still wasn't working as it should.
Apparently they admitted that the first day fantastic test time they got was due to them placing some of the front suspension assembly upside-down which gave the car an unnaturally low ride height and in that instance the diffuser worked fantastically!
UniversalTruth
Veteran
If they are so "blind", there should be some other hidden talent which helps them a lot. Perhaps they know the tracks by heart, or something else. It really looks like they see almost nothing to be so fast and accurate...
? Melbourne?
? Melbourne?
They do know them by heart of course, for example Nico Rosberg did couple seasons(?) ago on every race broadcast here in Finland a drawing blindfolded of the track, it was unbelieveably accurate.If they are so "blind", there should be some other hidden talent which helps them a lot. Perhaps they know the tracks by heart, or something else. It really looks like they see almost nothing to be so fast and accurate...
Last season (I think) Hamilton & Button did few times "virtual laps" with eyes closed and holding imaginary wheel, it was again incredibly accurate compared to real lap
A lot of racing sims offer the same veiwpoint, you can see enough to race
That's a good 10-15cm higher at least compared to modern F1, giving leaps and bounds better view
UniversalTruth
Veteran
F1 2012 cameras show similar field of view. There is something fishy in that youtube clip... 
F1 2012 cameras show similar field of view. There is something fishy in that youtube clip...
Nothing fishy about it, it's real F1 car driven by real (ex-)F1 driver having a camera mounted as close to eye level as possible on the helmet, if anything it's a bit "too high"
Only thing that it doesn't take into account compared to drivers view is the fact that it follows the helmet all the time, while your eyes necessarily don't.
I see Vettel is back to his tricks:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22106490
It surely won't be long before those two end up crashing off together again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22106490
It surely won't be long before those two end up crashing off together again.
Looks like Kimi will get easy championship win this season then, with Webber crashing Vettel out all the time and Lewis & Hamilton being behind enough to only fight for 2nd or 3rd spot depending on Vettel
Billy Idol
Legend
Cool, will be interesting to watch this season
Skrew all those gentlemen drivers...I want assholes like Alonso and Vettel now that MSC is gone...
