Formula 1 - 2013 Season

It was 4-2 for Hakkinen yes, however in the races they both finished they had 3 wins each in the first season together (Coulthard joining McLaren).

To say Hakkinen wasn't favoured is a joke. Even in the last season when it was apparent that Coulthard was the only chance of McLaren winning, Dennis still refused to give him the help he needed until it was far too late. He waited until Hakkinen had no mathematical chance at all when everybody could see that he was finished.

Dennis and Hakkinen had the most obvious bromance in F1. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/1304460.stm
 
Coulthard wasn't the only chance of McLaren winning, in fact Mika won just as many races as David did that season. The only real difference was that Coulthards car didn't break in half the races and wasn't plagued by as many issues when it didn't break down. Mika also "stole" points from David only once that season, so whatever they did made no difference for David's chances.
 
Räikkönen not good enough? You don't end up 3rd in championship with car averaging about 4th best when there's 2 drivers in each team.

It starts to sound like for you anything coming from Finland can't be good.

It's more like, all the best drivers from outside of Finland are only that good because of their favoured status in your opinion (therefore in your mind it justifies why your hero Raikonnen isn't as good as them).

Raikonnen has basically equalled every team-mate he's ever had, and to be frank none of them are considered to be absolute top class. Hakkinen struggled vs Coulthard when they both had equal equipment. Neither of these drivers are good enough to be given #1 status in any team, the only reason Hakkinen got it was because of the "special relationship" he had with Dennis after the accident.
 
It's more like, all the best drivers from outside of Finland are only that good because of their favoured status in your opinion (therefore in your mind it justifies why your hero Raikonnen isn't as good as them).
I've never said they're that good because of their favored position, I've only said it makes them look better than their teammates because of their favored positions.
Raikonnen has basically equalled every team-mate he's ever had, and to be frank none of them are considered to be absolute top class. Hakkinen struggled vs Coulthard when they both had equal equipment. Neither of these drivers are good enough to be given #1 status in any team, the only reason Hakkinen got it was because of the "special relationship" he had with Dennis after the accident.
Your claims about Häkkinen are just pure BS, even Schumacher thinks he was his only true rival.

Räikkönen (nor Häkkinen despite what you claim) has never wanted nor had "clear nr.1 driver position" unlike many others, which of course makes them look weaker compared to their teammates, when comparing to those who have the nr.1 preference in the teams and their team mates.

If Räikkönen "basically equalled every team-mate he's ever had" how come he's the one who won championships on the teams he has been on (and won 1 or 2 more if the car had been as reliable as his competitors), and not his team-mates?

If Räikkönen wasn't exceptional driver, how come he was hired to F1 having only driven practically junior series, skipping all the usual steps to F1 (which is why they had to ask for special permissions and make promises of him to FIA just to get him the superlicense), and just after 1 season was hired to McLaren?
 
So Hamilton joins the sad little group of champions with a clause in their contract that guarantees them nr. 1 position in team? sad. simply sad.
Eh? They have already stated that there is no such thing in the contract. Of course, a team that is chasing glory for what has been perceived as lackluster performance so far will be keen to get a driver title under their belt and they are likely to pay attention to the driver they feel best to be able to deliver the result.
 
So when the Hamilton hating ends who's up for a game of spot the difference with McLaren's 'new' car.

In fact we can play it with every car, as there won't be any major changes anywhere.
Depends on what you call major. I've not studied closely yet, but already you can see they have made a major change to the suspension geometry at the front of the car by going pull-rod. Seems like they may have also move the sidepod inlets further back as well.
 
Räikkönen (nor Häkkinen despite what you claim) has never wanted nor had "clear nr.1 driver position" unlike many others, which of course makes them look weaker compared to their teammates, when comparing to those who have the nr.1 preference in the teams and their team mates.

Yeah sure he'd never want an advantage, like having Ferrari and Massa gift him the title on the last day of the year (and even then only because McLaren's appeal failed).

If Räikkönen "basically equalled every team-mate he's ever had" how come he's the one who won championships on the teams he has been on (and won 1 or 2 more if the car had been as reliable as his competitors), and not his team-mates?
Probably 100 drivers could have said that if their car was more reliable they'd have won more titles. Luck plays a part in titles, as mentioned above, however I'm not really remembering when Raikkonen was superly unlucky in any championships. Raikkonen's win is up there alongside Vettel's this year as one of the luckiest in history. It was gifted to him from the start.

He's been beaten over a season by Heidfeld (2001), Coulthard (2002), Massa (2008), and in 3 of his other 6 F1 seasons, 3 times he has had more than 1 team-mate. Massa especially had the beating of him and would have added 2009 to that had it not been for the accident. He'd could have been beaten by Montoya in 2006 had Montoya finished the season. This is a guy who has been beaten by his team-mate half of the time.

If Räikkönen wasn't exceptional driver, how come he was hired to F1 having only driven practically junior series, skipping all the usual steps to F1 (which is why they had to ask for special permissions and make promises of him to FIA just to get him the superlicense), and just after 1 season was hired to McLaren?
If Raikkonen WAS an exceptional driver, how come Mercedes broke the bank going after Hamilton instead? Fact is had Hamilton refused, they'd have gone after somebody else not called Kimi Raikkonen. Somebody younger for a start.

And how many drivers got fast tracked into F1 and top seats? Even Coulthard started at Williams then moved to McLaren and nobody would claim he was an exceptional driver in F1 terms.

Read about Button on wiki -
Button was heavily hyped before his first race: former driver Gerhard Berger described him as a "phenomenon"; the head of his karting team, Paul Lemmens, compared him to Ayrton Senna; and Williams' technical director Patrick Head said he was "remarkably mature and definitely a star of the future".[10] However some had misgivings about his lack of experience and ability to cope with the pressures of Formula One
Senna? Phenomenon? Sure he's a world champion but he's neither of those. This is Raikkonen's level - he's in the same class as Button, Massa, Webber. The only difference between him and the latter two is a couple of points when it mattered most and a team-mate who helped instead of hindered.
 
Yeah sure he'd never want an advantage, like having Ferrari and Massa gift him the title on the last day of the year (and even then only because McLaren's appeal failed).
Standard practice when the other one doesn't have a chance for championship and the other does, it has nothing to do with team preferences.
Probably 100 drivers could have said that if their car was more reliable they'd have won more titles. Luck plays a part in titles, as mentioned above, however I'm not really remembering when Raikkonen was superly unlucky in any championships. Raikkonen's win is up there alongside Vettel's this year as one of the luckiest in history. It was gifted to him from the start.
It was never "gifted to him".
Not "super unlucky" on championship ever? The 2 times he lost the championship:
2003 - lost championship by 2 points having retired 3 times compared to winning Schumachers 1 retirement. One of these retirements was from clear lead, too, which most likely would have ended in victory had the engine not exploded.
2005 - this wasn't that tight, the difference being 21 points, but again Räikkönen had to retire 3 times, this time in all cases from the lead and in one case on the last lap too. Alonso won all those 3 GPs after Kimi retired. Alonso meanwhile only retired once.

The 2005 isn't that tight, but 2003 is simply very unlucky and only lost due unreliable car.

He's been beaten over a season by Heidfeld (2001), Coulthard (2002), Massa (2008), and in 3 of his other 6 F1 seasons, 3 times he has had more than 1 team-mate. Massa especially had the beating of him and would have added 2009 to that had it not been for the accident.
Kimi has never had the "nr 1 driver" in contract, which reflects to results compared to team mates easily.
2001 he was a newbie, with no racing experience outside the junior series' while most others have experience on the "stepping stone series'" before joining F1, it would have been nothing short of miracle had he beaten his teammate
Massa can be quick when his head is right, he has been beating and matching Alonso too few races after getting his head straight again (late last season). Alonso, though, has the advantage of Ferrari being all for him, unlike Kimi, and doesn't have behind-the-scenes issues with company buying his spot for someone else.
If Raikkonen WAS an exceptional driver, how come Mercedes broke the bank going after Hamilton instead? Fact is had Hamilton refused, they'd have gone after somebody else not called Kimi Raikkonen. Somebody younger for a start.
Do you know Mercedes didn't try to get Räikkönen first? No, you don't. Fact is some teams did try to get him, but he had no interests on leaving Lotus (and a contract, too)
And how many drivers got fast tracked into F1 and top seats? Even Coulthard started at Williams then moved to McLaren and nobody would claim he was an exceptional driver in F1 terms.
Coulthard raced in Formula 3000 before, one of the usual stepping stones of the time. He also was only a test driver, and no-one knows when he would have gotten to actually race had Senna not died, when testdriver was the obvious choice to get someone driving quick.
He didn't move to McLaren right away either, but after the 2nd season at Williams.
Read about Button on wiki - Senna? Phenomenon? Sure he's a world champion but he's neither of those. This is Raikkonen's level - he's in the same class as Button, Massa, Webber. The only difference between him and the latter two is a couple of points when it mattered most and a team-mate who helped instead of hindered.

That's just bullcrap right there
 
He won due to having an extreme advantage sure, but his performances in the McLaren have been good overall. Anyone who can beat Hamilton in the same car can't be bad.

I sorta meant the jury is still out on Perez more though. I'm still not quite convinced about him.
 
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Depends on what you call major. I've not studied closely yet, but already you can see they have made a major change to the suspension geometry at the front of the car by going pull-rod. Seems like they may have also move the sidepod inlets further back as well.

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/01/31/mclaren-mp428-mp427-sidebyside/

Changes are actually pretty sweeping overall. Although it not obvious, evidently they have moved to a high chassis and nose profile, a big departure from the previous philosophy, and have disguised it fairly well with the use of the newly allowed "vanity plate" (though you'll be hard pushed to notice it). The entire sidepod and cokebottle profile has dratically changed, with the top view looking much larger, but it is clear from the side that it sweeps down much more and in only one profile; under that they are sweeping inwards much more agressively as well. Although its not obvious from the pictures, reporters are saying that it is much tighter at the back and it seems they may have had some funky wishbone placement that may have allowed them to move the rear suspension forward a little.
 
He won due to having an extreme advantage sure, but his performances in the McLaren have been good overall. Anyone who can beat Hamilton in the same car can't be bad.

I sorta meant the jury is still out on Perez more though. I'm still not quite convinced about him.

He barely beat a Hamilton that was self imploding. Last season it was only close because of team errors and Hamilton retiring from the lead a few times. Button is a good number 2 driver nothing more. Webber would comfortably hand him his arse.
 
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Button is a good number 2 driver nothing more. Webber would comfortably hand him his arse.

If so he'd surely have done it in 2011 with a superior car, but he didn't and Button was second.

Button is a good driver who seems to have setup problems or something else just doesn't click which prevents him from being a great driver. Look at the Brazil (and Spa) performance though and it's clear that on his day he's capable of beating anyone (yes the same can be said for Webber).
 
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