First Star Trek XI Trailer

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  1. INKster

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    I saw it too.
    Excellent movie, despite the obvious fast cut to maximize profit with more viewings (it's close to 2 hours in length).
    I've heard they have left out quite a few scenes and entire subplots, despite having been shot and hinted at in the various trailers (Spock's birth, Klingons, etc).
    No doubt, the best Trek movie ever, and possibly better than any Star Wars movie to date (certainly better written and better acted).
    The musical score and the special effects are also top notch.

    Finally, let us hope a certain someone who ends up in a wheelchair gets back on his two feet soon. He was great in this movie, and a sequel without him will not be the same.
     
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    Watched it earlier tonight and enjoyed it thoroughly!

    The movie starts with a bang, and arguably one of the best space-battle sequences in any sci-fi movie. The cinematography is great, and superb special effects lend to creating a short but awesome all out battle between the Kelvin and Nero's 24th Century super-ship the Narada. The actors and the characters they portray made the movie! Kirk, Spock (Quinto and Nimoy), 'Bones' McCoy, Uhura, Scotty, Sulu, Checkov, Pine, Nero, etc everyone was great and it was just superb casting on the part of the directorial team. There are tons of great action sequences ranging from the opening battle (one of the highlights of the movie), to the 1st assault on the drill platform, and the battle on Nero's ship. In the end, I felt that everyone had come together as a team and the movie had done a good job and forging the classic bridge crew of the Enterprise.

    Other things I noticed:

    • The special effects went a long way to creating a much more believable universe.
    • The ships looked great, from the Kelvin, to the StarFleet armada and of course the Big E has never looked better IMO.
    • The battle sequences felt far more convincing with debris (parts, bodies, dust) that hung and floated by in the space around them. Weapons fired in rapid succession from little ball turrets, giving a much more intense Star Wars like pace to the battles
     
  3. hoom

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    Yeah, great ships/effects & Bones was good.
    Skyler as Spock was quite good too.
    Nicely rollicking compared to the rather staid action Startrek normally manages.
    Phaser battle was really cool.

    However somehow it felt a bit wrong/distorted in a way that I never felt about new BSG.
    • Why the hell is it using a huge Romulan ship run by a rogue with a grudge again? It kinda sucked last ST movie & sucks again in this one.
    • Worse, it looks just like the bad guys from Wing Commander Prophesey! I was like WTF?! When it turned out to be just Romulans again...
    • And how would a mere mining craft captain be aware of Spocks' short notice mission? Surely Romulans would be much more careful with information like that.
    • Spock was all too eager to accept time travel. I thought the Vulcan Science Directorate had decided it was impossible?
    • Sulu with a sword??? That battle should have ended with two disruptor shots from the 2nd Romulan.
    • I kept thinking "Why are they suddenly in a factory?"
    • How did they manage to make Diora Baird look mediocre instead of sizling hot?
    • Liked the other ships & the saucer on Enterprise but the engineering body & nacelles were wrong proportioned
    • No fleet engagement :(
    • Sensors that couldn't spot the battle as they approached Vulcan & couldn't tell they were popping out of warp into the debris field/the atmosphere of Titan
    • Why would they have that huge sphere of 'red matter' if only a single drop was needed for the task? & If 1 drop could black-hole the nova, the full amount would surely be seriously cataclysmic?!!
    • They were in warp for minutes but Kirk got dumped onto a 'planet' that was close enough that Vulcan was moon sized in the sky :roll:
    • Deus ex machina in the form of trans-warp transporting
    • You killed Vulcan! You bastards!
    • And Romulus!
    • The timeline didn't get fixed at the end!
    • Too much Leonard Nemoy.

    I could live with several more movies or a series in this style though :)
     
  4. pjbliverpool

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    Hmmm, i'm still very dubious about this movie. Sounds like its gonna be good but all the "its way better than old trek" is making me fear that its missed the point of trek altogether. Its true that there wasn't much action but (good) Trek was never about action. Thats partially why Voyager and Enterprise are so crap compared to TOS and TNG - because they placed too much emphasis on action and not enough on what made TOS and TNG great, the characters and interesting/moral/optimistic stories.
     
  5. rendezvous

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    I liked the movie and I'm not a trekkie. And I have only seen Star Trek Nemesis before (an of course alot of Voyager episodes since the introduction of Seven of Nine :p ).

    I didn't like the beginning with the introduction of Kirk and Spock that much, but I think it got better and better after that.
     
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    I found Nemesis to be pretty crap tbh. Definatly in the same "action first" vein as Enterprise and Voyager.
     
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    Star Trek Enterprise is a gem if you ask me... way over looked.

    Some good points raised by Hoom.

    Waiting for everyone else to catch up before posting more details.
     
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    Pretty good, bearable amount of cheese. Didn't have the level of epicosity I was hoping for but it was very well made.

    A few caveats:

    Time travel, bite me. Though I give credit for making people actually have to stay in the new timeline. That's one way to reboot the franchise. Who the frak stays behind to fire phasers at a ship that was just injected with a dose of "blackhole stuff" similar to the one that engulfed a planet? It was already observed to be consuming the ship. And who the frak allows smaller ships that you can blow to crap get close enough that they can use ramming speed? Too much smooching with Spock and Uhura. We got it the first time.

    I didn't notice anyone else noticing the "wink" of having Pike in a wheelchair. That was cool.

    The trailers were great. In some ways GI Joe looked better than Terminator and that was an 11 in terms of SF porn. I was glad they made Custer look like a dick talking to the Native American babe for Night at the Museum.

    Edit: Changed a term.
     
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    I loved it. I agree it was not like the other Trek movies.

    Didnt care too much for GI Joe and Terminator previews...looked a bit of a letdown?
     
  10. Babel-17

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    I hardly ever go the theater so maybe I'm predisposed to enjoy all the bells and whistles.

    For GI Joe I expected trash so I was happy to see the trailer sequences that looked so high octane fueled.

    For Terminator I was impressed by the effort to make the sequences look gritty and realistic and not just overwhelmed by CGI.
     
  11. Scott_Arm

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    Star Trek was pretty wicked.
     
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    OK so...

    1. Why do you need to drill to the middle of a planet for a blackhole to consume it?
      [*]Edit messed up timeline: A Romulan mining ship with such massive firepower? 2250ish (I think) + 129 years = 2379ish?? which is around the time of ST: TNG or just before it. The ship seems like it's well advanced for its supposed age.
      [*]The Romulans cannot simply evacuate their planet?
      [*]129 years in the future and no mention of a star, by any other Star Trek series, about to go Supernova (this is the non-alternate Universe remember)?
      [*]I am sorry but Spock and Ohura's romance was shite and overcooked in the end. Made me want to vomit. Special favours indeed!
      [*]Maybe the Vulcans will now find a planet that is occupied by the Andorains for the last millenia or two and one that the Vulcan's feel is theirs really. The Federation can then help them evict millions of Andorans by force by bulldozing their homes and destroying their agricultural land. The ones that remain will be treated as a sub-species with virtually no rights and all their land slowly being taken away from them by the powers that be. Maybe not, just an idea. Ahem.
      [*]Scotty was a let down - such a brilliant character but far too condensed in this movie but no blame on the story I guess, just the runtime. That cute alien that was helping Scotty needs to join a Union though.
      [*]So all the kids (Kirk, Chekov, Sulu, Ohura and Spock end up running the starship Enterprise after one mission ... how lovely and silly.
      [*]OK so Chekov is not so pretty anymore but he was hilarious. Best re-make of the lot if you ask me, for sheer comedic value. :)
      [*]I cannot for the life of me believe that the signature saying of Star Trek was not uttered by Shatner but they left it to Nimoy.. my word those Vulcan's are an egotistical nightmare! I really thought that was a big slap in the face for "Kirk" and definitely not cricket. Kirk is the hero dammit!!
    Anyway... I'm a closet Star Trek fan coming out. Please forgive me!!
     
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  13. John Reynolds

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    Caught a showing this afternoon. Very disappointing movie, way over-hyped.
     
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    I can't help but feel the movie, while pretty good in its own right, was slightly underwhelming. Maybe it was just the hype. Overall, I liked Wolverine a little more.
     
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    Saw it yesterday and it was much fun and much eye candy. Well done and mostly well played, the story glitches and some flawed logic didn't bother me at all. Who cares about that.
     
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    I gave it 7/10, which means I was disapointed...
    There wasn't really anything great in the movie, old Spock was the best thing.

    Uhh so Vulcan and Earth had no sort of planetary defence at all? some dudes can put an undefended drill hammering the planet and nobody does anything...The story of the villain was just bad imo. I wish they would come up with something else than a moron with a silly grudge.

    The battle sequences were uninspiring aswell. The third trailer looked and sounded epic, but all those scenes felt lesser in the movie.
     
  17. Phil

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    DrEvil:

    Bear in mind, the technology to destroy the planets was at least by 128 years from the future (Nero traveled 153 years into the past with his ship and waited 25 years until he destroyed vulcan and attempted to destroy Earth). It could be explained that earth and vulcan did not have the technology to defend against that kind of superior technology yet.

    Not that I would give the film more than 7/10, but I really haven't thought about that yet and am still deciding if I really liked it or not. I did enjoy it though...
     
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    The drill was undefended, and took only few phaser shots to be destroyed!!. Despite the strenght of the romulan vessel, it was only one vessel against a planet, which even at that time should have had pretty massive planetary defense considering how easy the planet is to reach, but yeah in the end one can come up with illogical things like that all day long and that wasn't what bothered me the most in the movie. It just didn't have anything great in it.
     
  19. hoom

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    Another thing that actually really pisses me off about Startrek in general:
    The astounding bigotry that Vulcan (or other Federation planet) is destroyed & nobody much blinks an eye but if Earth were to be destroyed then it would cause the Federation to collapse Oh Noes we can't let that happen!
     
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    I love how a stowaway becomes Captain with a few swift moves. If only the corporate was so easy.
     
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