Famitsu on next gen survey

[GwymWeepa]

I've never met anyone with a console that is hooked up to the Net. And I know a lot of people with consoles, both within and outside the biz. A few people have expressed vague plans to someday getting around to buying a wireless router to hook up to their console(s). And some vague talk about one or two online games being something cool to check out... someday... maybe.

That's it.

Nintendo will be there online when it makes sense.

I can't say that I know any hardcore gamers, but I already know of 3 of my friends and family having Xbox Live.

 

[jvd]

Sigh if online was such a huge deal this generation we'd all be talking about the dreamcast being the number one console with the xbox following that and the ps2 a distant third .


Fact of the matter is it wasn't important and most likely wont be next generation .

The dreamcast unlike the ps2 had online play right out of the box . The dreamcast to this day still has an equal library of online games compared to that of the ps2 .

It seems to me that nintendos online strategy was the same as sonys. Both had add in nic cards , both left the majority of online support to 3rd party companys . The reason why sony has more online games is because there are more 3rd party developers for them.

 

[Nightz]

i predict the new nintendo system will be an abysmal failure in all nations outside of japan. im sure nintendo wont "lose money" on it, but they will be a distant distant 3rd place. hopefully this will be the end of their run in the console business, cut they just get worse and worse each generation.

I'm sure the big men at Microsoft and Sony look at their stats and then the sales charts, then say to themselves "Damn We're the ones who should be making money here". Its been proven time and time again that in the games market you dont have to be the market leader to make alot of money.

Nintendo has been compared to BMW, they make quality products and dont have to be in the number one position to be profitable or succesful. Like BMW customers, Nintendo customers are satisfied.

 

[hovz]

probably cuz bmw is a great car compared to any car. cant say the same for the gamecube.

 

[Miksu]

Well it's clear that you have some emotional problems if the little cube gets you so worked up. I just wanna get to the bottom of it. Maybe we can help you

I think it's because his current obsession to dis anything Ati-related.

 

[see colon]

Where are those numbers?. Last I heard was 15.5M after June for Xbox and 15,97 after September for Cube. To me it seems that Xbox is leading now.

this giftmas was pretty good for the cube i think. my local ElBo even sold out of them, something i don't think they've done in well over a year. of course, with ps2 and to some extent xbox's so hard to find this year i think alot of parrents went with whatever the store had.

i really enjoy my gamecube. i like the "differant" direction nintendo tries to take sometimes. it's refreshing to play a game that's not trying to be as epic as a movie, or "change the gaming world forever". pure and clean fun. but i'm really not gonna sugarcoat things. the release list for the cube is very short now. it's going to be a lonely year for the cube. but alas, i'm a multiple console guy, so it doesn't affect me much.

 

[Inane_Dork]

this giftmas was pretty good for the cube i think.

Here in the US, according to MS, only the Xbox had a rosy Christmas: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/7431/CES-2005-Robbie-Bach-Letter/

MS claims to have taken 40% share during the holiday season. They also claim the GC's sales were down 47% from last year, which is reasonable (no large price drop this year).

Of course, I'd prefer to wait for exact NPD numbers, but I doubt they'll show anything different.

 

[function]

In a lot of the stores I saw this Christmas, Gamecube was filling a lot of the window space with high value bundles (relatively high price buyndles, lots of mediocre games stuffed in there). Stocks of PS2 and Xbox across Britain (and the US and the rest of Europe I assume) have run right down as both Sony and Microsoft underestimated demand for hardware this Christmas (annoying the publishers greatly no doubt). So shops have been trying to push the Cube in their place. If the Cube hasn't had a great Chrismas this year, it refelcts very badly on Nintendo.

Gamecube is cheap as chips in the UK now. My games collection for it is building slowly as there are too many bargains not to buy. I haven't connected the Cube up since I bought it though, and it and it's games are gathering dust under my TV as I can't be bothered to disconnect the PS2 or Xbox.

BTW, in contrast to the experiences of many here, both myself and many of my friends are on Xbox Live. Not using Live, and hating MS related products, seems to be a badge of honour for some of them though. Computing types, eh?

 

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Unless you have seen some very recent hard numbers other than the usual "xbox 'has' to be in 2nd place," the GC still leads it by about a half-million.

Do you have any recent hard numbers that show this? I've been hearing from the Nintendo side that the Cube is ahead by half a million for the last 12 or 18 months or something. I haven't seen any "hard" numbers from anyone for a while, just references to consoles shipped.

 

[one]

Developers:
50 % - PlayStation3
32,1 % - Xbox 2
17,9 % - Nintendo Revolution

Considering the expected release date of Revolution, it's hard to determine whether this reaction to Revolution by developers is by knowing the actual spec or not. How do you guys think about it? If they already have seen the spec and the concept of Revolution and judged like this, then Nintendo is doomed since NDS got better support when they knew its spec, but if it's answered without knowing the actual spec, then it may not be such a bad number.

 

[London Geezer]

Hey, that could be seen as "WOW, almost 18% of the Devs will develop on Revolution even without knowing whether it's a console or a toaster!!".... Errr....

 

[GameCat]

sorry buddy xbox outsells gamecube

Bzzzt!

There is a certain crowd of people that believe that on faith. Too bad it ain't true, no matter how much it fills them with hatred/shame/something.

No. The xbox is definitely in second place world wide by now. The cube has been doing poorly in NA for the entire year and it isn't selling well in Europe or Japan either (though, to be fair, neither is the xbox). Xbox really is selling like hotcakes in the states and in europe it's probably on level with the cube, might be slightly in the lead. Japan doesn't sell enough cubes to make up for this.

Unless you have seen some very recent hard numbers other than the usual "xbox 'has' to be in 2nd place," the GC still leads it by about a half-million.

Look here: http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=2&cId=3135080

If we combine this with the NPD numbers for US sales we get sales up to and including novmeber of (note that xbox figures in that article are as of July 22:nd and GC numbers as of June 30:th so GC gets an extra month of sales added)

GC: 15.5m + 93k + 109k +115k + 210k +350k= 16 377 000
Xbox: 15.2m + 217k + 265k + 217k + 708k=16 607 000

Of course, we have to add the cubes sold in Japan but considering the cube is lucky to sell 40 000 units a month there (which would give 5*40k=200k extra cubes) and that the xbox seems to lead slighty in Europe, I'd say it's fair to proclaim the cube a global third although it is a tight race between the two. Especially considering the December NPD number are likely to be similar to the November ones, i.e. xbox lead by 350k units or so. Worldwide numbers are hard to come by but at least this estimate is based on actual sales figures (excluding europe).

 

[London Geezer]

People still arguing over 300K units margins... :?

 

[DuckThor Evil]

People still arguing over 300K units margins... :?

People are fighting over a lot smaller margins in different places. The important thing is that Xbox has finally surpassed CameCube.

 

[_phil_]

from these numbers ,shouldn't we consider both consoles are complete failures ?

 

[London Geezer]

from these numbers ,shouldn't we consider both consoles are complete failures ?

That's the point, and people are still fighting over 300K units difference...

 

[DuckThor Evil]

from these numbers ,shouldn't we consider both consoles are complete failures ?

No. I think Xbox has managed to get decent marketshare and you have to remember that Xbox is just launchpad for Xbox2. I think it's fair to say that CameCube has been a disapointment.

That's the point, and people are still fighting over 300K units difference...

Maybe the whole thing is just too much for you to understand .

 

[sytaylor]

The dreamcast unlike the ps2 had online play right out of the box . The dreamcast to this day still has an equal library of online games compared to that of the ps2 .

Nay, chu chu rocket ruled, and Q3 Arena was actually quite playable with the mouse/kb considering it was dial up.

 

[London Geezer]

No. I think Xbox has managed to get decent marketshare and you have to remember that Xbox is just launchpad for Xbox2. I think it's fair to say that CameCube has been a disapointment.

Maybe the whole thing is just too much for you to understand .

No, maybe you should just go back to your igloo. If thinking the Xbox has done well, or that somehow it is less of a disappoinment than the already embarrassing GC makes you feel warmer, then by all means, go for it. To the eyes of who doesn't care about names, they're both failures. the fact that the Xbox is "the launchpad for Xbox2" is merely an excuse. It's a failure, commercially. At least Nintendo are still turning a profit.
And what's this CameCube thing all about? Grow up.

 

[DuckThor Evil]

No, maybe you should just go back to your igloo. If thinking the Xbox has done well, or that somehow it is less of a disappoinment than the already embarrassing GC makes you feel warmer, then by all means, go for it. To the eyes of who doesn't care about names, they're both failures. the fact that the Xbox is "the launchpad for Xbox2" is merely an excuse. It's a failure, commercially. At least Nintendo are still turning a profit.
And what's this CameCube thing all about? Grow up.

Did you just told me to grow up and go to igloo in one post

Why is it just excuse? many businesses start by building foundations for future and profit comes later, this is exactly what MS has done. I don't know what future holds for them, but it's too early to say that they have failed. That CameCube thing was a typo.