I dont care how much you played Oblivon, I modded the ridicolous leveling system in Oblivion. Been there, seen it and changed it, simple as that. And good for you if you never rested to level up. I did and I went past level 20 before even doing half the side quests.
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I dont care how much you played Oblivon, I modded the ridicolous leveling system in Oblivion. Been there, seen it and changed it, simple as that. And good for you if you never rested to level up. I did and I went past level 20 before even doing half the side quests.
DuckThor Evil
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I just completed Fallout, I did quite a few sidequest and the playtime was about 40h. Good game, although the finish was somewhat disapointing... A you can't continue playing and b
I don't know if I'll play this anymore. I finished at level 18, so it would be nice to max out and I'm sure there is alot more content in this game and playing with a different character, the experience should be very different. I'm just not sure if I wan't to put another 40h into it, with all the other games needing to get some time.
The end came little too soon, as I was just getting plenty of money and the ability to repair my stuff to a satisfactory level.
I had a supermutant helping me, but he refused to activate the purifier eventhough he is immune to radiation and the explanation was not very good.
I don't know if I'll play this anymore. I finished at level 18, so it would be nice to max out and I'm sure there is alot more content in this game and playing with a different character, the experience should be very different. I'm just not sure if I wan't to put another 40h into it, with all the other games needing to get some time.
The end came little too soon, as I was just getting plenty of money and the ability to repair my stuff to a satisfactory level.
My friend brought his copy over on the weekend and I was immediately hooked. I really like it. It's similar to oblivian, but better. VATS was implemented really well. Some people say it's not like Fallout, but I think they did an exceptional job of capturing the feel and the humour of the originals. I'm very pleased.
So now I have to figure out when I can finish Gears2, my second play of Fable2 and Fallout3 with Left 4 Dead on the horizon.
So now I have to figure out when I can finish Gears2, my second play of Fable2 and Fallout3 with Left 4 Dead on the horizon.
inefficient
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I've started playing the PS3 version of Fallout, and played it most of this weekend.
After all the buzz that this game was full of bugs and had frame rate issues, I was pretty damn surprised that I had ZERO issues at all. And I played at least 10 hours into this game.
Frame rate is rock solid for me. Significantly better than the last Multi Platform game I played - Dead Space. Most people didn't complain about Dead Space PS3, so I thought maybe I am just more sensitive to these things than the average gamer. If there was any drops in frames in FO I never noticed them.
Being a big Fallout fan. I do think they did a very good job of staying true to the spirit of the Fallout universe. Not just with the signature fallout stuff, but with all the little odds and ends as well.
The VATS system is very good for this kind of game, and I really do hope Bethesda keeps it for future elder scroll games as well. Unfortunately combat outside of VATS is just that good. And I feel they intentionally handicap you too severely when not in VATS mode. You just end up wasting ammo.
I only have 2 real complaints about FO3:
1) It is very ugly world. This is not really an art or technical issue. The game world is just really fugly. There is so much garbage, junk, dilapidated buildings and corpses everywhere. In Elderscroll games I would just wander around the world admiring its beauty. In FO3... not so much.
2) There are lots of invisible walls now. This is a bit hard to get used to for a fan of Bethesdas other games. But there will be times when I think should be able to easily climb over a pile of rubble or whatnot to progress in a certain direction, but no: there is a hidden wall there. Because of this, the world feels significantly more restrictive than before. And they force you through a very confusing network of tunnels under DC because the overworld, at least in the downtown area, has so many walls + invisible walls.
But otherwise I find it very compelling and I'm totally hooked on it. It takes so much more effort now to get anywhere I feel a greater sense of accomplishment when I complete a mission or even when I manage to make it safely to a new city. In MW or Oblivion often I felt I was cheating my way through the game just because the mechanics were so easy to exploit. And because the world was much more open ended, the AI was at such a huge disadvantage if you knew all the tricks. FO3 is significantly more restrictive but at least I feel like I am earning my progress through it.
After all the buzz that this game was full of bugs and had frame rate issues, I was pretty damn surprised that I had ZERO issues at all. And I played at least 10 hours into this game.
Frame rate is rock solid for me. Significantly better than the last Multi Platform game I played - Dead Space. Most people didn't complain about Dead Space PS3, so I thought maybe I am just more sensitive to these things than the average gamer. If there was any drops in frames in FO I never noticed them.
Being a big Fallout fan. I do think they did a very good job of staying true to the spirit of the Fallout universe. Not just with the signature fallout stuff, but with all the little odds and ends as well.
The VATS system is very good for this kind of game, and I really do hope Bethesda keeps it for future elder scroll games as well. Unfortunately combat outside of VATS is just that good. And I feel they intentionally handicap you too severely when not in VATS mode. You just end up wasting ammo.
I only have 2 real complaints about FO3:
1) It is very ugly world. This is not really an art or technical issue. The game world is just really fugly. There is so much garbage, junk, dilapidated buildings and corpses everywhere. In Elderscroll games I would just wander around the world admiring its beauty. In FO3... not so much.
2) There are lots of invisible walls now. This is a bit hard to get used to for a fan of Bethesdas other games. But there will be times when I think should be able to easily climb over a pile of rubble or whatnot to progress in a certain direction, but no: there is a hidden wall there. Because of this, the world feels significantly more restrictive than before. And they force you through a very confusing network of tunnels under DC because the overworld, at least in the downtown area, has so many walls + invisible walls.
But otherwise I find it very compelling and I'm totally hooked on it. It takes so much more effort now to get anywhere I feel a greater sense of accomplishment when I complete a mission or even when I manage to make it safely to a new city. In MW or Oblivion often I felt I was cheating my way through the game just because the mechanics were so easy to exploit. And because the world was much more open ended, the AI was at such a huge disadvantage if you knew all the tricks. FO3 is significantly more restrictive but at least I feel like I am earning my progress through it.
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inefficient
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What are you talking about? Did you not play one of them? Oblivion is nearly identical to Morrowind aside from the visual upgrade. In fact that was my biggest complaint about Oblivion.
With the difference that everything scales with you as you level... Which kind of makes it an action adventure game... I love TesO, but if I had to choose, I'd take Morrowind any day.
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Freak'n Big Panda
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Lol well what did you expect?
Hardly. Oblivion got seriously dumbed down when compared to Morrowind (leveling loot and enemies, can't kill critical NPCs, fast travel etc). I hope the next installment in the elder scrolls series ditches some of those simplifications because I really think it takes away from the game as a whole.
Uhuh. Oblivion is Morrowind for newbies with prettier graphics. (GPS, level scaling, fast travel ++++)
I play both;
And a lot of time in Table RPGs before.In Morrowind you have a deeper economical and socio-political background, in Oblivion is weak. In Morrowind ex: when you choose one of the dumners factions you can't go easily to the others, in Oblivion you can made all you want with very little restrictions, no consequences of your choices.
Personnaly, I'm not complaint about the level up of the ennemies, or the fast travels.
In Fallout 3 you have the economical and socio-political background, and you have some choices with (littles) consequences.
specwarGP2
Regular
so is this game recommended? I want to try it, but I hated oblivion.
inefficient
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If you hated Oblivion you will probably not like this. It is still very similar to Oblivion/MW. (Though of course nit pickers will try to convince you otherwise. The same people who incorrectly try to say that MW is "totally" different from Oblivion)
But what specifically did you hate about Oblivion. If you tell us that we can tell you if that has changed in FO or not. For me personally, the best improvement for FO over Oblivion/MW is the VATS combat system. Combat is actually interesting now instead of the chore it was in their previous games.
specwarGP2
Regular
Combat was tedious and what really made things worse was that all the environments looked the same. Framerate was bad too, but as long as there isnt a lot of tearing then my TV can compensate for that.
inefficient
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Combat is significantly different. In case you haven't been following there is something called VATS (Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System). When you see an enemy, you can press a button to go into VATS mode.
When in VATS mode the game is paused. You have time to decide exactly where you want to shoot your target. Head, torso, arms, legs, etc. Depending on the size of the body part and distance to you, you have a percentage of 0 to 100% shown of how likely it is you will hit it. You can queue up several shots in a row using your action points. Number of action points is determined by agility and other perks. When you confirm your actions it goes back into real time mode and executes your shots.
You can also aim shoot freely without VATS too. But you just get more bang for your buck ammo wise if you use VATS. Your action points take a few moments to recharge. So if you have run out of AP but baddies are still bearing down on you usually have not choice but to revert to the free firing.
Regardless of using VATS or free shooting, which part you target has a significant impact depending on the type of human/mutant/animal/robot. Oblivion doesn't have this. For example, if you shoot something in the leg you can cripple it so it can no longer run at you anymore. Or you can shoot the weapon out of enemies hands etc.
Note that enemies who drop their weapons will often pick them right back up again if you give them time to do so. Or they will run to pick up some other fallen comrade's weapon nearby.
Like Oblivion there are weapon skills you can develop so you can improve your performance in a particular weapon type. There are critical hits if you are lucky. And Sneak attacks are always critical hits.
Environment wise it is less varied than Oblivion. It looks consistently like a trash can. Just look at screen shots and decide if you like it or not.
Frame rate is fine.
Fallout 3 for PS3 now has trophies with 1.1 patch! Not retroactive (shocker) me thinks
Nope. there isn't much connection aside from the same "theme" in the game.
Fallout 1 & 2 happends in the west, i think a few hundred years before or after the events in Fallout 3. Fallout 3 is set in the same universe but there is little to no tie ins to the older games
Fallout 1 & 2 happends in the west, i think a few hundred years before or after the events in Fallout 3. Fallout 3 is set in the same universe but there is little to no tie ins to the older games
No not at all. There are several places where you find info about the history.
Well, after reading about the DLC, I'm going to get some trophies in my PS3 version, sell it, buy the 360 version used (if you want to make your DLC exclusive, you don't really deserve too much of my money). Being that I work in Gamestop, I'm going to push used copies of Fallout 3 very very hard. I really don't make a difference in the long run, but I think DLC should never be console exclusive, so yea, take that Bethesda!
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