Fallout 3

Yeah, PC and 360, PC probably still being the best way to play this game (and I say this without a PC that can run this game acceptably).

 

I'm about to start this up tonight. For those who've played through it, what recommendations you give for a character build/skill? Can you change them later or you're stuck with what you pick?

 

I just heard about some terrible frame drop in Rivet City market, are you getting the same problem?

 

I wouldn't call crap, just because of AA and some shadow thingy...I mean, graphic isn't the only thing that makes a great game. If you have both console, by all means get it for the 360, but if you have a PS3 only, I would recommend on getting it...

 

Apparantly it sold quite well.
(4.7m shipped worldwide all-platforms)

 

i cannot believe you like Oblivion so much, oblivion to me is the most overhyped title of all times and a game thats not even a proper RPG.

 

Thats how feel about every jrpg out there. I def think it wa an rpg just not the best one. It could have ben much beter , hopefully they took what they learned with oblivion and fallout and make a better game.

 

doesnt the PS3 version has better ground textures and a shiny specular pass which the 360 is missing? afaik the 360 version has better AA and perhaps runs better slightly?

 

I have to say I was expecting a little more from this game. It's basically just oblivion with a different story and a more economical colour palette! And for some reason it's quite depressing to play, maybe in part because of the down beat colours. I was hoping for something a little more expansive and in depth than the Oblivion experience.

 

Looking at the comparison shots over in the game tech thread it does appear the PS3 has higher resolution normal maps all around, including some cases where objects on the 360 are missing them completely.

The 360 has MSAA and higher resolution, filtered shadows.

In fact, it actually seems like the PS3 version's assets are closer to the PC version... Hmm...

 

can only trust yourself these days when it comes to game reviews and comparisons. like the old saying, seeing is believing.

 

Morrowind is a RPG, Oblivion is a Adventure game… Fallout 3 seem to be more in the Morrowind's vein, but actually I'm only at 12h of gameplay so I need more time to give my rights feelings.

 

There are no choices that affect terminal outcome, - you can complete every quest in the game in a single game.

The character class you start out with is completely meaningless, eventually you will max every stat and every skill. Levelling is just one big virtual threadmill.

There is basically no role playing element in Oblivion, it's all hack'n'slash adventure.

But it isn't even good at that. The automatic scaling of baddies more or less forces you to treat it as a min-max game, focusing on combat and magic skills, and if you do, you'll be the most powerful at level 16-17 when you max your first combat skill, and from then on you basically become weaker and weaker because baddies continue to scale, while you skills are capped.


Cheers

 

Thats a good summary of Oblivion imo.

Tbh, Oblivion is closer to "medeival GTA" than it is to a roleplaying game.

Are you kidding me? We must have played different games! You dont need any smart planning in Oblivion. Hell it doesn't even matter what level you are in Oblivion, you can finish the main quest at lvl 2 if you want to (and thats not by being clever, just by fighting because everything has stupid autolevel). Hell, once you discover the "camuflage" effect in oblivion, your immortal, just get 3 items with +35 camo and nobody will ever attack you, even when your hitting them.

No you dont, just dont be stupid enough to select several different weapon skills at everything works out fine. You can finish the game as a melee-er, sniper, whatever.

 

Well Oblivion had horrible leveling system. When you got up in level so did the whole game world to. Seeing farmers and civilians walking around with daedra and glass weapons and lesser enemy classes being removed. Since enemy spawn was your level -12 or -8 for cutoff mark. Meaning at level 20-40 you would only meet the worst enemies indoors and outdoors and the lesser enemies (rats, ghost etc) would never be seen.

Also at normal difficulty you had to hit the enemies ridicolous amount of times with no difference on what part of the body. Loot respawn and enemy respawn was also bad and simplistic. really like one general rule for the whole game applied instead of tuned rules for different parts.

Worst was that assaulting or stealing would have the guards summon upon you +2-3 soldiers spawned if necessary. Not funny when the guard hearing/detection range was 5000 game units!


Fallout 3 is a massive improvement on all accounts.

 

Oh yeah, forgot, stupid me. God forbid you actually pick combat major classes if you want to role play as a warrior.

Thanks for reminding me how moronic the skill system in Oblivion is.

Well, you haven't. Maxed all stats (including luck). Maxed all skills except athleticism, currently at 93, and only because I can't level any further (can't level to 51 because stats are maxed) and levelling athleticism without a trainer is mind numbingly slow. Completed all quests except a few skill-related ones and a few low level daedra deity ones. I've sunk 130 hours into this over the past 2½ years. I actually enjoyed large parts of it, but it is not a role playing game and the levelling system is broken.

Cheers