DS or PSP

[Ali-G]

DS, it has the interesting new features and possibilities and a very good battery life. Its graphics are already easily good enough for good 3d gaming and its graphics will get better as devs got used to the system.

PSP is nothing new really, just nicer graphics. If it cuold do that with a good battery life it'd still be a very good handheld. But 2-3 hours makes it a bit useless IMO.

 

[V3]

Both.

But if I have to choose one right now, probably choose DS, since it got a some sort of remake or new SMB game, don't know what it is, but its SMB.

Though I spotted a Mahjong game some where in one of the announced game list, so I might choose PSP.

But I'll vote for DS anyway, to keep the balance of power.

 

[Pepto-Bismol]

A Shore Thing?

With its Cell processing and wireless ability, PlayStation Portable looks like a PlayStation 2½. Nintendo's Dual Screen, on the other hand, appears to be a tiny N64.

Yet, despite the architectural chasm, Nintendo knows portable gaming. Unlike PSP, which will probably have a console's lifecycle, Nintendo's handhelds are overhauled – what – nearly twice as often with backwardly compatible hardware? With this business model, any technological disparities will be offset in due time ...

Still, if PSP where to become all the rage tomorrow, it would take Sony YEARS before they would begin to loosen the vice grip that Miyamoto & Co. has on market. And by that time, PSP is likely to be competing against a line of affordable Nintendo products, each purpose-built for their own niche in the market.

 

[wco81]

One interesting point that someone made about Miyamoto. A lot of young gamers, who are the presumed target audience for Mario and other cutesy games, actually are developing a taste for more "adult" games like GTA.

Nintendo's demographic was always in danger of outgrowing Nintendo games. But maybe it's going to happen a lot sooner than people expected?

Still, no doubt Nintendo's first-party games will draw millions to the DS, unless it becomes perceived as the new Virtual Gameboy.

 

[see colon]

A lot of young gamers, who are the presumed target audience for Mario and other cutesy games, actually are developing a taste for more "adult" games like GTA.

the funny thing with the gameboy is that it's almost always recieved ports of "adult" games that havn't appeared on nintendo's home consoles. the gta series was ported to gb/gbc (gta3 was at one time in development for gba, haven't heard anything on it in a year) and games like max payne, driver 2, and violent brawlers like dual blades and the slew of mortal kombat games for the gba.
c:

 

[McFly]

Re: A Shore Thing?

With its Cell processing and wireless ability, PlayStation Portable looks like a PlayStation 2½. Nintendo's Dual Screen, on the other hand, appears to be a tiny N64.

No Cell technology in PSP my friend.

Fredi

 

[Lazy8s]

Neither hardware is very impressive. DS should've been more powerful than it is, and its physical design isn't so form-fitting. PSP delivers nothing you wouldn't already expect from a power hungry, expensive portable. Between the two, the DS is the more inspiring with its separate touch screen and built-in microphone and voice recognition.

 

[zurich]

PSP without a doubt. DS is anything BUT a revolution..

 

[Ty]

I by far prefer the PSP but in terms of interesting innovations I'll give the nod to the DS because of what could be done with features like dual screens, touch screen with stylus, & voice recognition (built-in mic and input) though I expect this to be less useful without a headset. Naturally they'll need to leverage these features in games in order for them to be worthwhile. Still, an interesting feature-set....

 

[jvd]

Power vs Revolution ...

How about both when they drop under 200$ ?

 

[Phil]

I voted for the PSP. I like the concept of having 2 independend screens, but sadly, the DS's design doesn't really appeal to me at all. Another thing that bothers me with the DS is for sure the touchscreen - I have used PPC's and other devices with stylus for a couple of years now and always hate the screens getting scratched overtime.

As for available vote-options - I definately agree with ChyZ. An option is clearly missing!

 

[Blade]

It's not surprising to see the margin so close.. 60% for PSP so far, understandably.

I voted for the DS, because as ultra sleek, feature-packed, and utterly sexy it is.. I want innovation and "Nintendo" over brute force and PS2 ports. I don't have enough information (definite battery life numbers, for example) to tell you that I won't buy a PSP.. but I can say.. barring a $199 price-tag, that I will buy the DS. It just seems so interesting, while the PSP just seems like a portable PS2. I have a GCN, Xbox, and PC.. if I want PS2 games I'll buy a PS2. (or more preferably, a PS3 in 2006)

Of course, I did buy the GBA*.. but who can deny that it was a good choice with 2D quickly fading on home consoles?

* With rehashes, remakes, and 16-bit ports intact, something I criticize the PSP for..

 

[Squeak]

I've watched all the movies and checked out the screenshots, IMHO the DS's abilities are somewhere between SNES's Super FX Chip and Sega's Saturn

If anything its a bit more powerful than Saturn and at least on par with it.

My main problem with the DS is the lack of an analog stick or analog d-pad. Seeing Nintendo demoing the DS with a Mario 64 clone - a game, in it's original incarnation, so reliant on analog steering - only further put into perspective, how much an analog controller is mandatory for almost any serious 3d game today.
There is the touch screen of course, but that’s spatial control as opposed relative control, and the diamond of surface buttons, can’t be used when reaching for the screen.

That said, Animal Crossing will be the killer app for me, the machine was practically made for it! Finally getting netplay, on the one game most sorely needing it, will be pure gold.

 

[Pepto-Bismol]

Re: A Shore Thing?

No Cell technology in PSP my friend.

From what I gather, PlayStation Portable is supposed to talk to other Cellular devices like PlayStation 3.

"Wireless networking is set to form a key part of Sony's grand plan for its next generation hardware, gi.biz has learned, with the company's vision of the future banking heavily on the proliferation of high-speed wireless hotspots in the home and in public places.

It's already well known that the PlayStation Portable will feature hardware supporting the 802.11 wireless networking system, but new details of Sony's future vision reveal that this will not only be used for multiplayer between PSP devices - and explain why the company opted for the more expensive and power-hungry 802.11 standard rather than the seemingly more logical Bluetooth wireless system.

Well-placed sources have informed us that Sony plans to use wireless networking not only for multiplayer between PSP devices, but also to link the PSP with the next-generation home console, PS3, and with wireless internet "hot spots" to enable online multiplayer and internet communication functionality." – Game Industry Biz

However, given the incredible variation in power consumption, PSPs are probably chatting away whether they are turned ON or OFF.

Enough of the philosophical jargon, I – I suppose you'll want proof of this? Well, McFly, have I ever led you astray?

 

[zurich]

I find it interesting that alot of people voting for DS are citing the fact that the PSP will be PSOne/PS2 port-a-rific, when the GBA is flooded with NES/SNES ports/remakes, and the DS seems prime to carry on that tradition with N64 ports/remakes. I mean it's so blatant, it almost seems to be the focus of Nintendo's business strategy.

 

[jvd]

I find it interesting that alot of people voting for DS are citing the fact that the PSP will be PSOne/PS2 port-a-rific, when the GBA is flooded with NES/SNES ports/remakes, and the DS seems prime to carry on that tradition with N64 ports/remakes. I mean it's so blatant, it almost seems to be the focus of Nintendo's business strategy.

Well its alot diffrent getting ports from over 10 years ago then getting ports from 4 years ago.

I remember super mario bros well. But i remember final fantsy 7 alot better than it and I finished playing that game about 4 years ago.

Its like with 80s stuff.

Yea i love my tansformers but its been about 10-15 years since i've read about them or watched the series . So when they started the new comics and put the shows on tv is was cool. Would i feel that way if they put on say gargoyles which was on when i was in highschool ? Not at all. Because its still fresh in my memory


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also the fact that my nintendo (both top loader and original) are starting to malfunction and i doubt will be playable much longer including the carts .

Where as all your playstation games work on your ps 2 and mabye your ps3 .

So its a little diffrent

Mabye in another 5 years or so i would like to have a portable that played saturn games . But right now i don't think it would intrest me .

 

[zurich]

Well its alot diffrent getting ports from over 10 years ago then getting ports from 4 years ago.

I remember super mario bros well. But i remember final fantsy 7 alot better than it and I finished playing that game about 4 years ago.

Well it's no one's fault but your own that you were slow to finish FF 7

Final Fantasy 7 came out in 1997, Mario 64 came out in 1996 (yes?). Assuming FF7 is remade for PSP (which hasn't been confirmed, unlike Mario 64x4), that's only 1 year 'newer'.

 

[Teasy]

There is the touch screen of course, but that’s spatial control as opposed relative control, and the diamond of surface buttons, can’t be used when reaching for the screen.

Isn't the bottom screen the one that's touch sensative? In which case surely you could control movment by touching the screen with your left hand while pressing buttons with your right hand.

I find it interesting that alot of people voting for DS are citing the fact that the PSP will be PSOne/PS2 port-a-rific, when the GBA is flooded with NES/SNES ports/remakes, and the DS seems prime to carry on that tradition with N64 ports/remakes

I find it interested that a lot of people are voting for PSP citing the fact that DS won't provide much that's new (and before they've even played a single DS game). When the PSP won't be providing a single thing that's new and has far less interesting possibilities then DS.

 

[Squeak]

There is the touch screen of course, but that’s spatial control as opposed relative control, and the diamond of surface buttons, can’t be used when reaching for the screen.

Isn't the bottom screen the one that's touch sensative? In which case surely you could control movment by touching the screen with your left hand while pressing buttons with your right hand.

I guess, but a touch screen still isn't good for the same tasks a "spring loaded" controller is.

 

[zurich]

I find it interested that a lot of people are voting for PSP citing the fact that DS won't provide much that's new (and before they've even played a single DS game). When the PSP won't be providing a single thing that's new and has far less interesting possibilities then DS.

So when the next gameboy comes out, as it is a seperate 'pillar' afterall, and doesn't feature two screens, it will be a step back, like the PSP then by your logic? But wait - if the next Gameboy does carry forward all of the current DS 'revolutionary' features, what will distinguish it from the DS 'pillar'?

I think it's pretty clear that Nintendo's handheld policy has become a little confused since Yamauchi forced this project out the gates.