this is a very sad and pathetic console generation. Mediocrity galore. Pitiful. I don't find the words. At least Tom had fun tweaking the settings on the Series S.
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Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2024]
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I wonder if trying to keep certain assets within the GPU optimal 10GB of memory might lead to a big texture like the ground texture being reduced in size.
I'm leaning towards texture compression differentials only because I'm expecting the UE5 virtual texturing system to be more than sufficient here in keeping texture pools small.
davis.anthony
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Series consoles have Kraken and XSX has more usable memory than PS5.
I think it's just tied to XSS settings being used as base on XSX.
Charlietus
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Series x is using a texture setting that is clearly much better than what series s is using, so I don't think that's it.
On my 6 GB VRAM GPU, the textures also look like that, they never load, regardless what setting or resolution.
By the way, something appears to be wrong with UE5's volumetric cloud system. I've had buggy and flickery artifacting clouds in Hellblade 2 and I have them again in Ark. They flicker and artifact like crazy and it's very, very unpleasant to the eye. It's not clear what upscaler Ark uses, since there's no setting for it, but it might be an issue with upscaling and the volumetric cloud system in UE5. This is medium settings, 1440p and a render resolution of 50% with the "innate"upscaler (probably low translation from German, it might refer to TSR?). I really, really don't think the clouds should look like that.
And now imagine the most horrible flickering you can ever imagine.
Here's the same issue in Hellblade 2 using DLSS at the same render resolution. (Low-Medium settings)
I don't have much time to download a 20 GB for Fortnite right now, but if my memory serves correctly, I've also noticed buggy and artifacting clouds there as well. (Although take this with a grain of salt, I might verify this at a later date). But observing the exact same issue in 2 recent UE5 games already, I think it's a clue that points toward this issue being engine related.
Charlietus
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I played some Fortnite yesterday on PS5 and I can confirm some amount of artifacting there as well.
DavidGraham
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There's definitely upscaler settings on PC, it's just spread between two tabs in the settings IIRC. On console I assume it's TSR.
Regarding the artifacts it's probably just sampling resolutions falling low enough that the reconstruction starts to have a lot more trouble. If you leave it on medium but bump the internal res back to native or something (DLAA or 100% TSR scaling) do they reduce/mitigate to be more similar to the look of High/Epic?
Unfortunately with a number of these stochastic effects there is kind of a critical breaking point beyond which there just aren't really enough samples to reconstruct reasonably, exacerbated by motion. SMRT/VSMs run into similar issues if the settings are pushed too low and/or the contrast is too extreme.
Ha, this is a pretty great practical graph of the bandwidth differences in the VRAM/PCIe test
Could not have planned those squares/volumes out more perfectly.
The VRAM meters in these games are I think still a net positive, but should probably come with a lot of *'s about how approximate they are. Even if the game could somehow be perfectly accurate to its own use over the full experience (which is impossible for a variety of reasons, one of which is that both the OS and driver get votes that change over time), the app can't predict any other uses of VRAM and decisions from the OS about VRAM sharing between applications, especially on multi-monitor systems. A healthy buffer is probably always going to be needed on PC, similar to dynamic resolution.
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@Dictator : You guys looked at this?
forum.beyond3d.com
Independent frame interpolation utility on Steam. Cyan's the only user reporting but it sounds really good.
Lossless Scaling. Machine learning Frame Generation and upscaling on ANY GPU!
This is something I mentioned in the FSR3 thread, but according to the Lossless Scaling author, they use Machine Learning and not FSR3 for this tech, so I decided to add a new thread. With Lossless Scaling you can have Frame Generation in any game of your collection, just like when this app...
forum.beyond3d.com
Independent frame interpolation utility on Steam. Cyan's the only user reporting but it sounds really good.
I actually was gonna Look at it soon@Dictator : You guys looked at this?
Lossless Scaling. Machine learning Frame Generation and upscaling on ANY GPU!
This is something I mentioned in the FSR3 thread, but according to the Lossless Scaling author, they use Machine Learning and not FSR3 for this tech, so I decided to add a new thread. With Lossless Scaling you can have Frame Generation in any game of your collection, just like when this app...
Independent frame interpolation utility on Steam. Cyan's the only user reporting but it sounds really good.
DavidGraham
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Ray Tracing and Virtualised Geometry.
Damn, maybe you are right… You could send an email to the developers explaining that XSX has more usable memory and that they can turn up the textures?
davis.anthony
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Just did and they said Xbox isn't worth their effort.
Using ARK as the basis for your judgement of the console's capabilities is more pitiful than anything and you know it.
DavidGraham
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1:20:20 Supporter Q3: Is delaying a physical release the best option for modern games?
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1:34:32 Supporter Q5: Do you have ambitions for growing your audience?
0:28:42 News 02: Assassin’s Creed Shadows unveiled
0:46:55 News 03: Clarifying the Gears of War cinematic trailer
0:55:05 News 04: Epic Games Store leaks upcoming games
1:01:05 News 05: Riven demo released
1:08:59 Supporter Q1: Has any console generation been more boring than this one?
1:13:43 Supporter Q2: Was Microsoft showing Series X or PC footage at their games showcase?
1:20:20 Supporter Q3: Is delaying a physical release the best option for modern games?
1:27:06 Supporter Q4: Will you make an updated PC Gaming on a Budget video?
1:34:32 Supporter Q5: Do you have ambitions for growing your audience?
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