Digital Foundry Article Technical Discussion [2022]

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a big'un

 

Excellent video!

 

A great recap, I don't think they missed anything in particular, touched all or most of the controversy topics etc.

 

Nice 1.5h recap talk

 

Was intresting look back.

The XSS discussion was good also.
Start of video sounded rather negative as wasn't really placed in context.

End of video when placed in context of people who will actually be playing it, future facing metro and matrix sounded more positive.

Are there any titles first half of year that aren't cross gen?

 

stalker 2, forspoken

 

The later isnt visually interesting to date. Stalker will issue in a new era of videogame teeth by the looks of it.

 

Most anticipated games are still cross-gen, give it a year or two more before we see true next gen games (like UE5 demos).

 

Forspoken thread @ https://forum.beyond3d.com/threads/forspoken-project-athia-ps5-pc.61802

 

Will DF take apart the latest Hellblade 2 trailer?

 

They mentioned it in DF Direct #41. But I believe they just don't have enough information right now to do any kind of analysis.

 

I love the art style of this title. Its amazing

 

Edit: Article link added.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...ross-gen-face-off-xbox-series-s-vs-xbox-one-x

 

I bet power consumption wise, the XSX trounces the XOX though...

 

Summary lifted from Era..

"summary incoming

• on paper the One X's gpu > Series S's gpu; more memory and higher bandwidth
• however Series S cpu > One X's cpu, so One X is limited to 30fps but at higher resolutions
• Guardians of the Galaxy
  • Series S - 1080p/30, better shadows and textures
  • One X - 1440p-1890p/30
• Forza Horizon 5
  • SS - 1440p/30 or 1080p/60 (both dynamic); 4x msaa; quality has higher object detail
  • OX - 2160p/30 (dynamic), 4x msaa; object detail similar to performance mode on SS
• Halo Infinite
  • SS - 1080p, 30 or 60; 30fps has framepacing issues
  • OX - 2160p/30 or 1440p/60; 30fps has framepacing issues, 60fps has framerate drops
• Far Cry 6
  • SS - 1224p/60fps, dynamic
  • OX -2160p30fps, dynamic
• CoD Vanguard
  • SS - 1440p/60 or 1080p/120, dynamic,
  • OX - 2160p/60, dynamic, lots of visual effects downgraded; cutscenes are 40-50
• CoD Warzone
  • SS - 1080p/60, actually Xbox One mode
  • OX - 2160p/60, dynamic, actually 45-55
• Cyberpunk
  • SS - 1080p-1440p/30, better pedestrian density
  • OX - 1440p/30, driving dials fps to low 20s
• Metro Exodus
  • SS - 1080p/60 (lower internal res), full ray traced GI
  • OX - 2160/30
• pretty even so far for Oliver
• loading (OX HDD, OX SSD, SS)
  • Vanguard: 24.4, 11.8, 3.5
  • FH5: 85.5, 42.9, 24.3
  • Halo: 61.3, 27.8, 14.1
  • the Ascent: 128.9, 30.8, 30.3
• Backwards Compatibility
  • Final Fantasy 13 -
    • SS - 1152p, 2x msaa
    • OX - 1728p, 2x msaa
  • Mirrors Edge
    • SS - 1440p/60, has drops
    • OX - 2160p/30
  • Series S has Auto HDR, better loading, and 60fps on some 360 games
  • some One series games don't have One X enhancements on Series
  • Doom 2016
    • SS - 1080p
    • OX - 2160p
  • Red Dead Redemption 2
    • SS - 864p
    • OX - 2160p
  • Far Cry 4
    • SS - 60
    • OX - high res, 30
  • Prey
    • SS - 60
    • OX - high res, 30
• One X is better with older games
• Series S has some fps boost for some games, faster load times, also has new hardware features
• One X is competitive in recent titles and very much in older titles, but will struggle more with 60fps
• One X will be unsupported eventually while Series S will be support alongside the Series X"

 

It would be fascinating to see a version of The Matrix Experiencing running on One X.

 

They'd have to fall back on the pre ray traced hardware depended version of Lumen. Is that still knocking about I wonder?

 

The One X is lacking a lot of hardware features that could be required for Matrix Experience. I doubt it would run particularly well at the same fidelity. My general thought here is that CPU and SSD requirements would already stop it from running on One X, the GPU may do alright, but the lack of DX12U features would likely make it perform worse.