Blu-Ray, HD-DVD will not need HDMI for Video until 2010

[expletive]

Apparently there will be no need for HDMI for HD-video until at least 2010. The studios have apparently agreed behind closed doors to not enable the ICT flag until at least 2010.

This solves the 499 PS3 and the HD-DVD add-on problem for Sony and MS in terms of video.

HD audio on the new discs will still need to go through HDMI, if only becuase of the bandwidth required. I suppose it is still possible that the PS3 A/V port could have a 5.1 analog output ocnnections but that doesnt seem likely.

MS has said they will have everything required for consumers to enjoy the HD-DVD format, i wonder if they meant the audio side too, or just the video.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/22/studios-wont-downgrade-hd-video-for-now/

 

[ninzel]

Well if the audio needs it then the video might as well need it as well correct? So this is really no better news.Something smell's fishy to me, and I'm not talking about my girlfriend.

 

[blakjedi]

Arent both the coaxial and optical S/PDIF capable of carrying a high def signal?

 

[ninzel]

Arent both the coaxial and optical S/PDIF capable of carrying a high def signal?

That's what I've understood, that's why this sounds like BS to me.

 

[expletive]

Arent both the coaxial and optical S/PDIF capable of carrying a high def signal?

No, but they can carry the legacy DD 5.1 that should be included on every disc. You can watch the HD Video while listening to the good old 5.1 DD audio.

 

[ninzel]

No, but they can carry the legacy DD 5.1 that should be included on every disc. You can watch the HD Video and listen to the DD audio.

So DD5.1 is not considered HD audio anymore? I guess everytime a new standard comes out the old one changes.

 

[SugarCoat]

Once again proving Sony jumped the gun on Hardware HD implimentation. At least in their gaming platform.

 

[expletive]

So DD5.1 is not considered HD audio anymore? I guess everytime a new standard comes out the old one changes.

Nope, its yesterday's news.

IMO, it was never really "HD" to begin with, most DVD soundtracks are compressed to a stream of 384kb/s for all 5.1 channels. That said, it still sounds (sounded) great.

 

[Carl B]

Once again proving Sony jumped the gun on Hardware HD implimentation. At least in their gaming platform.

How's that?

 

[expletive]

This is probably good news for Sony. Now they can offer a stripped down PS3, and not have to sacrifice BR functionality in the process (not counting the audio side of course).

 

[DuckThor Evil]

This is probably good news for Sony. Now they can offer a stripped down PS3, and not have to sacrifice BR functionality in the process (not counting the audio side of course).

Apart from the fact that You won't be getting 1080p out from the component, or even if you do, there aren't any TVs that will accept it from component input, apparently though if the Tv applies de-interlacing to the picture, the end result is real 1080p as was discussed in other thread, so it probably isn't a problem.

 

[Arwin]

Apart from the fact that You won't be getting 1080p out from the component, or even if you do, there aren't any TVs that will accept it from component input, apparently though if the Tv applies de-interlacing to the picture, the end result is real 1080p as was discussed in other thread, so it probably isn't a problem.

And besides, that's not true. There are definitely TVs that will get 1080p from component, though not all of them currently support it at 60fps (yet). There was even an article on teamxbox on HD TV that gave a number of examples of TVs that support 1080p through component.

 

[breez]

Not getting "HD Audio" IMO is no problem at all. Whoever can afford a home theater system that can resolve differences between DD/DTS and the new formats can easily afford a standalone player with HDMI or at least the premium PS3 package. It is not like DD/DTS is full of compression artifacts or anything like that. Discrete 7.1 vs. plain old 5.1 is a minor difference and the poor guy who cannot afford HDMI enabled devices can't afford a proper 7.1 system either

 

[DuckThor Evil]

And besides, that's not true. There are definitely TVs that will get 1080p from component, though not all of them currently support it at 60fps (yet). There was even an article on teamxbox on HD TV that gave a number of examples of TVs that support 1080p through component.

I stand corrected.

 

[J_Saint]

The specs for the new Samsung DLP sets list 1080p over component. I haven't checked AVS to see if any owners have tested it yet though.

 

[Fox5]

Apparently there will be no need for HDMI for HD-video until at least 2010. The studios have apparently agreed behind closed doors to not enable the ICT flag until at least 2010.

This solves the 499 PS3 and the HD-DVD add-on problem for Sony and MS in terms of video.

HD audio on the new discs will still need to go through HDMI, if only becuase of the bandwidth required. I suppose it is still possible that the PS3 A/V port could have a 5.1 analog output ocnnections but that doesnt seem likely.

MS has said they will have everything required for consumers to enjoy the HD-DVD format, i wonder if they meant the audio side too, or just the video.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/22/studios-wont-downgrade-hd-video-for-now/

Why won't coaxial or optical ports suffice for sound? Or is there now higher quality sound than dolby digital 5.1? As long as it's still compressed, can't it still be carried over the same cables?

 

[cthellis42]

What, you mean there's no USB-to-HDMI adaptor?

At least it's nice to see that the studios aren't going to force the matter entirely while Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are in their formative stages. I guess they see the need for easy adoption having first priority as well.

 

[Fox5]

What, you mean there's no USB-to-HDMI adaptor?

At least it's nice to see that the studios aren't going to force the matter entirely while Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are in their formative stages. I guess they see the need for easy adoption having first priority as well.

Yeah, but won't we be nearly on the post HD-DVD and Blu-ray formats by 2010? Well, maybe not if the HD spec is not going to change for a while.

 

[expletive]

Why won't coaxial or optical ports suffice for sound? Or is there now higher quality sound than dolby digital 5.1? As long as it's still compressed, can't it still be carried over the same cables?

They will suffice fine for the DD track on these discs.

However, they dont have the bandwidth nor the digital content protection measures for 5.1/7.1 channels of 24/96 high resolution audio.

 

[RobertR1]

People are more concerned with Video over sound. PQ is very easy to determine for the majority. Very few are sound sensitive. To most, loud = better sound, which is certainly not the case. Being able to watch their HD movies via component will make a lot of people happy.