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How soon will Nvidia respond with GT300 to upcoming ATI-RV870 lineup GPUs

Poll closed Oct 14, 2009.
  1. Within 1 or 2 weeks

    1 vote(s)
    0.6%
  2. Within a month

    5 vote(s)
    3.2%
  3. Within couple months

    28 vote(s)
    18.1%
  4. Very late this year

    52 vote(s)
    33.5%
  5. Not until next year

    69 vote(s)
    44.5%
  1. Davros

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    Eyefinity ?
     
  2. Sound_Card

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    I don't believe it has anything to do with flops. It's simply the second iteration of the architecture.
     
  3. R300King!

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    Did you forget the "x" in your Experience? :D
     
  4. Silent_Buddha

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    Image recognition built in? Preparing for Natal on PC? It's an odd marketting term for sure without knowing what it's meant to represent.

    Regards,
    SB
     
  5. CarstenS

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    Stereo-3D-Support?
     
  6. nutball

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    In these days of iThis, iThat and iWhatever, shouldn't it be spelled iFinity?
     
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    Meh, ATi is still wasting precious die space for HD video decoder(s)?
    This thing should have been long ago left for low-end and mainstream SKUs only, given that any C2D class CPU is pretty much able to deal with the hi-def content.
     
  8. Tim

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    UVD was 4.7*mm² in area on 65 nm it should be less on 40 nm even with the enhanchments. Also you might want to use your CPU for something else while playing movies or you might prefere that the CPU-fans stay quiet even when you when playing HD content.
     
  9. Silent_Buddha

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    Depends on whether it does it more energy efficiently than a CPU. Either way I doubt it'll ever go away as it's an important marketing checkbox either way.

    Regards,
    SB
     
  10. trinibwoy

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    I'm still waiting on Purevideo to be useful. Forcing me to buy PowerDVD or WinDVD in order to use it is bull. If I'm not mistaken it's the same with UVD.
     
  11. Arnold Beckenbauer

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    You don't need to buy them. If you only watch HD movies "from the internet", it's enough to have the MPC HC, for HDTV over DVB you only need the PowerDVD8 demo, you can register its H.264 decoder and use it for example with DVBViewer.
     
  12. AlexV

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    You don't like MediaPlayer HomeCinema?
     
  13. Arty

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    Yes, I know. Just pointing out the possibility that it may mean double meaning.
     
  14. Arnold Beckenbauer

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    OffT: Here and there you always hear the same answer, when someone has problems with (HD) videos: Use VLC. It looks like the most people don't know MPC HC or it's a mystery for them.
     
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    No thankyou, why would I want my CPU going at full tilt when my GPU can decode video without breaking a sweat?

    Hardware decoding of dual 1080p streams is very, very tasty indeed.


    MPC - HC supports hardware DVXA decoding of numerous codecs just fine. The scaling and output quality is stunning as well.


    I think its because its such a simple solution, even if its inferior to MPC: HC in pretty much every way as far as I'm concerned. I go out of my way to recommend it, such an excellent piece of software. :grin:
     
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    Hotboy is at it again, putting my meagre translation ability to the sword:

    Later in the thread:
    And also:
    [Edit]
    Adding simplistic analysis:
    First quote new AMD card is roughly 1000 points behind in Vantage X performance to the GTX295, similarly game performance is at about that level. "Preparing to try the water" is i guess a euphemism for releasing. Next bit is a bit harder. "Old king releasing gunmen" is a bit hard to explain...i think he is trying to clarify meaning in the later quote so will leave it to then. Huang has erred seems fairly straightforward, though no idea what the actual mistake was.

    Second quote is also reasonably straightforward, a large number of GTX275s are about to come on the market. Used a military metaphor of planting their flag behind this card.

    Finally the third quote: Dismay, there is no current way of knowing the final release performance of the GT300. Have sent "gunmen to go to every big forum" (does that include this forum??...if not guess that means B3D is not considered big ;) ) and ensure they are perceived in a positive light. Nvidia recently failed to make usual payments to journalists for positive coverage, something in brackets i don't understand. They are also having problems with "the way its meant to be played" program. The final part might have something to do with the last quarters results where nvidia managed to save 10% is SG&A without explicitly saying what was cut back.
     
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    I thought this was part of UVD2?
    There was something about picture in picture dual-stream.

    R600 didn't have UVD & much hooha was made about the high CPU load + high GPU load when decoding.

    Eyefinity = Marketingspeak for faulty GPUs causing artifacts?
    [​IMG]
    This is not an RV8x0 screenshot, just to illustrate the joke :lol:
     
  18. Dave Baumann

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    UVD is a DXVA device.
     
  19. Kaotik

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    Just like PureVideo HD is, for example Media Player Classic Home Cinema has built-in codecs supporting DXVA acceleration on h.264 (both) and VC-1 (last time I checked, Radeons only), including those in .mkv container.
    Also, the built-in codecs of WMP12 in Win7 support hardware DXVA acceleration, and when using Haali Media Splitter, it works on .mkvs too.
     
  20. trinibwoy

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    Never heard of it before, thanks. Last time I used MP it only supported standard def mpeg decode acceleration. Will check out HC (this isn't a Microsoft product is it?)
     
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