All purpose sales and sales rumors/anecdotes thread next gen+
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The current best deal is, and a lot of the best deals have been, at the Microsoft Store. Current deal (the one that finally sold me one on Saturday) is 500 GB console with 3 free games (Halo:MCC bundled, Assassin's:Unity and a game of your choice from a small list) with a $50 MS store credit. They also offered a 1yr XBL sub for $39.99 as an accessory purchase when bought with the system so I grabbed that too. This has to be drawing some sales away from other vendors.
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PS4 Continental market share typically 70-90%
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...reater-than-90-per-cent-in-continental-europe
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...reater-than-90-per-cent-in-continental-europe
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That sounds wrong. I can believe parts of continual Europe being barren for Microsoft, but the UK market being 70% in favour of PS4? Hmmm..
PS4 is 70% to more than 90% marketshare in continental Europe* compared with Xbox One. He doesn't count Wii U because it is not the same public. Retailers do sometimes discount of 100 euros and the console don't sell. In France we can find some day one Xbox One...
http://www.micromania.fr/xbox-one-edition-day-one-52862.html
* Europe excluding UK
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Thanks, misread that. Too hot for reading comprehension here in the UK. 
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That is a scary proportion. So presumably Xbox and WiiU (and PC??) have a 10-30% share between them?
No they only compare with Xbox One. In France Wii U is ahead Xbox One. It is more 52% of PS4 and 48 % of Xbox One and Wii U combined
Japan was always a lost cause for X1, and Europe is likely to end up there. Having much of Europe as "tier 2" that couldn't even get the things till months after launch, when a clear winner was already emerging, probably wasn't the greatest plan. Could some of those tier 2 countries be the 90 percenters?
Designing a console around American TV viewers didn't pay off. Nor did abandoning a global launch.
Designing a console around American TV viewers didn't pay off. Nor did abandoning a global launch.
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The question is: who at MS thought that this is a good plan?
End of 2014 it was 1100000 PS4, 550000 Wii U and 416000 Xbox One in France. On 20th of June it was 1600000 PS4 and 378000 Xbox One in Germany. End of May it was a ratio of 9 PS4 for 1 Xbox One sales in Spain. It is ltd number. And it is tiers 1 country. In Tiers 2 country it could be even worse...
Last number in Italy were 4 or 5 PS4 against 1 Xbox One. Sony PS3 was leading the sales in continental Europe launching 16 month later than Xbox 360 with a launch price of 600 euros. Sony brand is huge in continental Europe. The battle was a lost cause.
But same launch window between the two consoles with 100 euros price advantage for Sony put an end to competition for the Xbox One in continental Europe. Another problem in some country like France, japanese games are popular... It helps 360 last generation but now it is a problem...
And it will be difficult because the marketshare is so big for PS4 than many people want to have the same console than friends...
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If the Xbox One had the exact same spec than PS4 and launch at the same price without the DRM controversy they would have lost in continental Europe but not by a so big margin because Sony brand is very strong here but all the Microsoft mistake kills the momentum of the console post launch.
Tiers 2 country was stupid too... Here PS4 is the new PS2...
Tiers 2 country was stupid too... Here PS4 is the new PS2...
I agree but its also true that this is a marathon not a sprint, let's see what happens over the next 24 months. MS has done a good job of addressing the missteps at launch and Sony has been slow on some needed initiatives.
To be clear I was critical of MS at launch especially wrt to $ and walled garden but lately (past 9 months or so) Sony has been a bit too comfortable.
I don't know maybe they can do a good 2015 fall and reduce a little the gap because Tomb Raider is popular in Europe. But after when Sony will at least have more first party exclusive it will be very difficult... Naughty Dog games are very popular...
In continental Europe you can find via retailer discount the Xbox One for 100 euros cheaper and it is not enough...
I believe PS4 is the new PS2 in continental Europe.
I agree that Europe is Sony's market to lose at this point, it's just that for me these platform sales ratios are a snap shot in time and too often the leader will rest on their laurels and let the competitor back in. MS has done an excellent job positioning the XB1 post initial release fiasco. While I'm confident in Sony some of the decisions/investments don't make much sense and some questions like where first party software or why was XYZ delayed haven't been answered satisfactorily which suggest a modest head wind for the leader.
Seems about right. Say it's in the middle, 80%
USA/Canada=around half the market, Xbox maybe 40-50% share
UK maybe...15% of the market? Xbox maybe 40% share?
Continental Europe=35% of market? Xbox maybe 20% share?
Work it all out and you'll probably come out with Xbox around 30-35% share as expected/known. So PS4 somewhere around 2:1 worldwide (by my calcs IIRC it's currently less, more like 1.8:1)
Ignoring Wii U in all that. As I understand the PlayStation Spokesman did.
Reading some Greenberg comments it was clear MS thinks a LOT of people are waiting to upgrade their 360's, and that BC will convince them to dive in in hordes this holiday. That was clearly MS rational in spending the $ on it.
I doubt it'll be that easy, but then again holidays are strong for MS and I expect them to do well. Just not a sea change.
Been rehashed but hard to imagine what MS suits were thinking. Launching a lower spec box at $499. Ridiculous. Dead out of the gate, behind fast 5, 6, 7:1, hard/impossible to recover in continental Europe.
I honestly think the DRM debacle had little lasting effect on anything that's gone on this gen. The true movers imo are always power and price, in that order.
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