All purpose Sales and Sales Rumors and Anecdotes [2016 Edition]
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Amazon isn't wrong, it's reporting sales reporting it's own sales rankings. The discussion about how representative Amazon sales rankings are of an entire market has been done to death. The flaws and unknowable considerations are well documented.
I like the mental gymnastics of "Amazon was wrong" rather than people people using it were wrong. Amazing is unpredictably wholly unreliable. That's not to say it's not sometimes representative on a particular month because sometimes it is, because of the laws of probability. And sometimes it's not and you can't tell which until you have market data after the fact.
To be fair, I think Rangers appreciates that (he's talked about Amazon viability as a reference point) and 'they were wrong' is just a poor choice of language. Simply because it's less mental gymnastics to find the frequently used word 'wrong' than to dig around one's vocabulary for the rarely used 'unrepresentative'.
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Fair do. Ranger isn't wrong to say Amazon wrong, Rangers is unrepresentative of the English language to not say Amazon isn't unrepresentative of the market. 
I'm glad we cleared that up!
I'm glad we cleared that up!
Actually I think he's pretty representative of vernacular English use.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=225374708
UK retailer aren't happy of black Friday and more than 3,5 millions of PS4 and PS4 pro before Black Friday in UK.
UK retailer aren't happy of black Friday and more than 3,5 millions of PS4 and PS4 pro before Black Friday in UK.
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While MCV were unhappy, I was very happy to pickup Watch Dogs 2 from Amazon for £32
While MCV were unhappy, I was very happy to pickup Watch Dogs 2 from Amazon for £32
I loved this bit:
Some random retail person said:
This, if you are a retailer or a publisher, is a bad thing.
I hadn't really thought of that. I guess retailers eagerly await review scores and get all antsy if a hopeful big-name fails to hit metascores and that'd point to lower sales.
It's a pretty big indictment of the state of the video game market that it is damaged by consumers making informed purchasing decisions that are in their own interest.
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Yeah. Those bastards.
That's true of any creative industry. Can't be helped - they're just a high risk businesses.
I'm not aware of anything directly comparable in any other medium. The closest I can think of is movies and even they don't succeed/fail on the strength of pre-sold ticket numbers and, while there is certainly an emphasis on opening weekend numbers, a poor opening can be made up for over the following weeks if the movie gets good word-of-mouth.
Although of course the data (see gamasutra) shows review scores don't really matter much at all in a games performance, sure theres a minor effect of a couple of percentage points but review scores vastly altering sales, yeah nah
MS wrote a statement about very strong Xbox One S sales during Black Friday
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-touts-strong-sales-xbox-one-black-friday/
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-touts-strong-sales-xbox-one-black-friday/
Hard to judge how to read this. A pre-statement of not meeting their projection, thus strong demand wording. Or a statement of meeting projection but holding off since the deals span to cyber monday.
In my country, during black Friday the XBO (original) sold at the equivalent of $120(!) including the Division.
If you don't buy into the system at those prices, you likely never will.
(The XBO Slim is at present available at prices similar to the PS4 Slim, and judging by previous sales here, that is not a good place for it to be.)
I think estimating sales data outside the US and Japan might be unusually tricky at this point.
If you don't buy into the system at those prices, you likely never will.
(The XBO Slim is at present available at prices similar to the PS4 Slim, and judging by previous sales here, that is not a good place for it to be.)
I think estimating sales data outside the US and Japan might be unusually tricky at this point.
They shouldn't be mad at Black Friday. They should be mad at pubs and devs because their lineup for the holidays doesn't seem to be as strong as last year.
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Are you kidding? Titanfall 2, Battlefield 1, CoD, Watch Dogs 2, Dishonored 2, NBA2K17... The story of this year is how improbably strong all the games are. The real problem with Black Friday is the way retailers are cutting their own throats by creating unsustainably deep discounts on EVERYTHING to the detriment of themselves and their publishing partners.
How many of those titles were expected to do the same numbers as fallout 4 or battlefront? FO4 moved 12 mil in its first month and battlefront moved 12 million over the holidays. Even with COD, which has a big expectation for sales every holiday, it's been a while since a warfare titles has outsold a black ops titles.
I am not disparaging the quality of the titles but outside of COD and maybe BF1, I doubt of any of those other titles were projecting anywhere close to pulling a FO4.
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