Xbox Series X [XBSX] [Release November 10 2020]

Discussion in 'Console Industry' started by Megadrive1988, Dec 13, 2019.

  1. function

    function None functional Legend

    It's possible they're buffering less on the CPU side, I guess. On PC via driver you can select a maximum number of frames to render ahead (on the CPU side) - I think 3 used to be be the default for Nvidia. Higher numbers can smooth out choppiness and reduce dropped frames, but it can also increase input lag. Nvidia now call it "low latency mode" with the number of frames obscured, but it used to be called something more specific like "max frames to render ahead" and present actual numbers to choose. I think the driver setting for VR still exposes the actual number.

    Without Jaguar cores holding them back, they might no longer need to use every single spare CPU cycle from one frame to help the next two or so to keep averages up. Perhaps they were able to shave off a frame or two of latency this way.

    I used to drop the setting on PC from 3 to 1, because it made me feel 1337. Now I just have it set to "on", which I think is still just 1 extra frame of latency, but not choosing the actual number myself definitely feels less 1337.
     
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  2. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Yes i used to do that for BC2 mp, made the game much smoother, but increased CPU usage by rather much at times.
     
  3. function

    function None functional Legend

    Yeah, by keeping frame rates higher you'd be demanding more work from the CPU. My CPU is so rarely the bottleneck these days (*cough* GTX 680 *cough*) it could probably give the GPU a head start and still prepare the next frame before the GPU was finished with the current one. :(
     
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  4. PSman1700

    PSman1700 Legend

    Lol. BC2 was quite intensive on the CPU anyways, it was due to its excellent audio implementation, probably the best still today. Yes and those GPUs from NV didnt age well either. Most games are still playable but settings have to be lowered etc. AMDs stuff did age much and much better (7870 still tags along nicely, fine wine they call it.

    Since BC2 i have not bothered with altering this render ahead setting anymore, think BF3 and BF4 had better optimization.
     
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  5. Pete

    Pete Moderate Nuisance Moderator Legend

    In case other people have the same problem seeing some tweets as I do:
    Larry Hryb @majornelson 5h

    Xbox One Media Remotes will continue to work with Xbox Series X|S as part of our commitment that you can bring your existing accessories forward with you. The design team hid the IR receiver inside the bind button #PowerYourDreams

    Speaking of Twitter, spurce for those input latency pics:


    Gears of War @GearsofWar

    #Gears5 feels better than ever on Xbox Series X. We’ve reduced input latency by 36% (Campaign) and 57% (Versus), delivering a profoundly more responsive experience for our players…especially when every millisecond matters. (1/3)”

    Sounds great. So the improved latency isn’t a controller thing but an XSX thing? I’d love to know if all games that run the same framerate as X1X will benefit from this, and if this also applies to BC titles and therefore XSS.
     
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  6. see colon

    see colon All Ham & No Potatos Veteran

    That's pretty small on Series X/S, but the IR in the bind button is the same thing they did on 360 S and E models. Although, they had much larger bind buttons.
     
  7. iceberg187

    iceberg187 Regular

    Finally got a date on delivery from Amzon on my XSX. November 10th by 8pm
     
  8. Kugai Calo

    Kugai Calo Regular

    Nice!
     
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  9. AzBat

    AzBat Agent of the Bat Legend

    Interesting. I don't remember that at all, but then again I never had one of those models. I still rocked my Elite/Jasper model until I got the XB1.

    Tommy McClain
     
  10. eastmen

    eastmen Legend Subscriber

    SX7YR97XYV96

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    Best of luck to everyone!

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    https://winxbox.com/

    The free codes can be used every day for us residents only
     
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  11. iroboto

    iroboto Daft Funk Legend Subscriber

    damn
    damn find me some beaver codes ;)
     
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  12. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

    First one not work for anyone else?
     
  13. BRiT

    BRiT (>• •)>⌐■-■ (⌐■-■) Moderator Legend Alpha

    I think its missing 1 character, try an S at the beginning ... SX7YR97XYV96
     
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  14. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

    Duh, that should have been obvious. :oops:
     
  15. BRiT

    BRiT (>• •)>⌐■-■ (⌐■-■) Moderator Legend Alpha

    I had the issue yesterday and didn't realize what it should be until today. :oops: :lol:
     
  16. mawver

    mawver Newcomer

    Ms has been talking a lot about "beyond hardware specs" so i've seen xbox has used dual pipe to process "off line" using idle cycles from SIMDs to deliver things like auto HDR, or the BVH start offline
    navi21 lite.png navi21.png
     
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  17. anexanhume

    anexanhume Veteran

    More waves per SIMD too. Sounds a little more flexible than the desktop variant.
     
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  18. liams

    liams Regular

    just curious, but do you know what the 'num_gl2c' refers to? I see that it has a few more than the desktop part
     
  19. AzBat

    AzBat Agent of the Bat Legend

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  20. mawver

    mawver Newcomer

    I'm not sure, maybe cache groups in L2.

    My point is not a value in the table that seems larger, but the fact that Ms is trying something very different from what is implemented in navi21
     
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