ihamoitc2005
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One Month!
One month sales??? That is amazing!
Pugger said:
One month sales??? That is amazing!
Xbox 360 Sales Data
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ihamoitc2005 said:
Well, 360 sold out.. so we knew it sold well...
What worries me is that if the UK alone had 129,000 units, that doesn't leave much for the rest of Europe, considering there were only 300,000 units for the whole continent.
mckmas8808
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dantruon said:
But see the problem is the DS really isn't outselling the PSP month to month in a lot of territories. Japan one of the only places where the DS is crushing the PSP. Everywhere else the PSP is doing quite well with the DS.
Look at the U.K. and NA yearly sales. But I do agree with your point.
mckmas8808 said:
Not saying you in particular, but it's funny that when people say the same thing about the Xbox/X360, things seem to be different for some reason
mckmas8808
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london-boy said:Not saying you in particular, but it's funny that when people say the same thing about the Xbox/X360, things seem to be different for some reason
What do people tend to say about Xbox/X360? I mean looking at worldwide sales the PSP is very close to the DS. On the other hand the Xbox is not close to the PS2, if that's what you mean.
ihamoitc2005
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Price
I feel price and system power is not so important factor for sales but just consumer interest. This is why GameCube is powerful system for $99 but has not so much sales. Consumer interest is for many reasons like marketing, advertising, games available, culture, etc. Also, PSP sales maybe more if price is lower but maybe price must be too low for sales to be higher so maybe new profit from software/media sales to extra buyers from low price maybe not enough for less price to be good idea.
mckmas8808 said:
I feel price and system power is not so important factor for sales but just consumer interest. This is why GameCube is powerful system for $99 but has not so much sales. Consumer interest is for many reasons like marketing, advertising, games available, culture, etc. Also, PSP sales maybe more if price is lower but maybe price must be too low for sales to be higher so maybe new profit from software/media sales to extra buyers from low price maybe not enough for less price to be good idea.
Aye. The two screens are neither innovation nor convenience (the way most DS games are using them, in fact, it's more irritating than one), and the interface--while not "innovative" from any specific technical standpoint, does deliver gameplay that people are all familiar with (GBA et al) with additional gameplay that was previously restricted to a tiny-in-comparison market (PDAs).pipo said:
The DS's primary innovation is in marketing and packaging, as it also rolls up other tech they hope will have a gaming (and if it goes beyond, that's nice too) impact (most notably wifi and the mic), and delivers it at consumer-friendly cost. (Finding PDA's with gaming-quality components even still ends up being a lot more expensive on the whole.) The main trade-off is the somewhat oblong and cumbersome design, which won't appeal to as broad a market as it could otherwise.
The PSP is indeed targetting a new market segment, but the DS is still targetting a new (relatively) gaming segment and trying to bring in a lot of folks who have felt no real desire to get into the portable market thus far.Phil said:
cthellis42 said:
I'm going to get hammered for this, but IMHO, the DS to me is just another GameBoy following the typical evolution. It looks like a GameBoy, it feels like a GameBoy - and those two screens and the touchpad doesn't make it something drastically different than their previous handhelds. They did change their marketing/software a little though (Nintendogs etc), but I'm wondering; are they really expanding on their market? Remember; The GameBoy market is huge...
Now I look at Revolution and the approach and the potentially resulting gameplay-experience is entirely different.
Don't ask that question! It reached 5million in Japan in only 12 months instead of 13 months (GBA), of course its expanding the market!Phil said:
I agree that Revolution is different, most DS software could really have been done on GBA for all the good the touch-screen did. And hell, those 3D games that can't would mostly look better in 2D
If Revolution delivers a substantially different gameplay experience it has more chance of expanding the market that DS ever had. But they really didn't have to sacrifice to do it, just take a lesson from Sony:
I would say for real, pure casual-gaming goodness, Eyetoy and Singstar have done more than DS+Revolution combined will do (XBLive expands to the PC gaming market, not non-gamers, no matter what VelocityGirl might say).
Nicked said:Don't ask that question! It reached 5million in Japan in only 12 months instead of 13 months (GBA), of course its expanding the market!
Oh I'm not disputing that at all. I'm questioning if those 5 million that bought a DS quicker than they did the GBA are infact the same consumers or not. I'm guessing mostly the same consumers as for many GameBoy consumers, buying the next product is akin to upgrading your graphicscard on the PC without the immense costs: You have full backwards compatibility, better graphics on the old games and the newer games take advantage of the newer hardware. This "evolution" is IMO nothing different than the going from the monochrome GameBoy to the colour, then the advanced. Sure, the DS has got more performance, more features - but the others did too. Thus, my question: Are they really expanding the market?
PSP most definately is (or in other words: it's catering to a new, arguably previously a non-existant market): It's something new and it's targeting a market that previously hasn't bought handhelds nor showed interest in them. I see Revolution succeeding in its own way: while targeting their own loyal fanbase, they may also expand beyond their current market to people that want simple / fun and innovative games - something EyeToy did very well this generation too. They might also reach into the market that is buying their handhelds today.
A small update...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/press_release.php?aid=13894
Before we get back on track...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/press_release.php?aid=13889
Sounds to me they are going to miss their 3M in 90 days target... Still good numbers though.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/press_release.php?aid=13894
Before we get back on track...
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/press_release.php?aid=13889
Sounds to me they are going to miss their 3M in 90 days target... Still good numbers though.
Joe DeFuria
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Powderkeg said:
No, that's exactly what I'm not saying.
I'm saying Nintendo sells a sh*t load of DS units, presumably to many people that are not "traditional gamers".
Like the DS has with handhelds?
1) Revolution should be the "newest" of all the consoles in terms of being different.
2) I'd hardly say that Nintendo "failed" with the "newness" of the DS.
scooby_dooby
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pipo said:
That's always been the stated goal, 4.5 to 5.5 for June.
It was just announced MS sold an estimated 1.3 million this year, so basically they need to sell 2 million more over the next 2 months, which should be a piece of cake if they can make the supply.
Which seems to be the concern. They only managed to make 1.3 million units in 4 months or so.scooby_dooby said:
mckmas8808
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Not to make this a console war
And the add what if Sony can sales close to 1 million in one week in Japan alone. They sold 982,000 PS2's in Japan the first weekend. I'm starting to wonder how big of a headstart they will actually get on Sony.
And the add what if Sony can sales close to 1 million in one week in Japan alone. They sold 982,000 PS2's in Japan the first weekend. I'm starting to wonder how big of a headstart they will actually get on Sony.
