Xbox 360 price drops by $50

Interview with the Aussie box boss: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176615.html?tag=latestnews;title;4

GS AU: Where do the new prices position your console in the Australian market now? Obviously, the Core is now the same price as a Nintendo Wii here.

DM: <cut> ... and we think that moving to that price point and doing some really interesting things around the Core--and we'll announce our strategy around Core in the time to come--we think we'll really push ourselves into that broader Wii market.

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GS AU: How long will you continue to sell the Core unit?

DM: There are no plans to discontinue the Core SKU. We've actually seen over the last few months that the Core has started to grow in terms of sales. If you look at some of the recent sales with mass merchants, the Core is doing really well for us. We're pretty pleased with the momentum that's been building on the Core, and it's still important for us to provide that level of choice to the customer. We have no intention of discontinuing the Core at this point. Furthermore, this price adjustment and some of the things we're planning to do with the product over the holidays will make it a more significant part of the business.

Include more stuff? Games? Hardware?
 
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YES!!!

After 3 days of searching and 5 stores(of which were 10-20 miles apart from each other :???: ) I finally got an Premium HDMI X360 :D

The other 4 stores I went to didnt have ANY at all(one of the four heard of such new batch, the others had no clue) and this last one (Fry's) had a whole stack of them on the video games isle and I even told one of the employees to open one just to be sure(it altready said HDMI on the box but I was just making things sure :p )

*yawns* no time to play, gotta sleep for work :cry:

*probably cant sleep anyway due to excitement and hot california weather*
 
Interview with the Aussie box boss: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6176615.html?tag=latestnews;title;4



Include more stuff? Games? Hardware?

Someone jumped the gun and hosted some pictures showing the holiday bundles in which both "Elite" and "Pro" versions of Xbox 360 will get a free bundle of Forza Motorsport 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance.

media

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161928

Kinda reminds me of the Jet Set Radio/Sega GT bundle with the origonal Xbox.
 
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Someone jumped the gun and hosted some pictures showing the holiday bundles in which both "Elite" and "Pro" versions of Xbox 360 will get a free bundle of Forza Motorsport 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance.

Which leaves the question as to what is happening with the core for the holidays still unknown, correct?
 
considering we havent seen any Core getting replaced with HDMI i'd say its getting axed like speculated. If they could drop its price to or below $250, it would of course still have value, but if they see their losses on the Core and previous sales as good enough of a reason, its pretty easy to figure they'd simply remove it.
 
Which leaves the question as to what is happening with the core for the holidays still unknown, correct?

I think they are having problems with the falcons. I don't think they will have much falcon stock this holiday season. I don't see the core being around this holiday season. I think we will see the core come spring time once falcon production is ramped up. I am curious what they will do with the core once it comes back. With MS wanting to turn a profit in the near future they pretty much have to ditch the core for now.
 
considering we havent seen any Core getting replaced with HDMI i'd say its getting axed like speculated. If they could drop its price to or below $250, it would of course still have value, but if they see their losses on the Core and previous sales as good enough of a reason, its pretty easy to figure they'd simply remove it.

Why would they add HDMI to the Core? They didn't even bundle it with component cable, meaning you couldn't even play in HDTV resolutions out of the box. Upgrading the composite cable to component would be enough of an upgrade by itself.
 
Why would they add HDMI to the Core?

It would be a sign that they've moved all the units over to simplified production with 1 main board. I seriously doubt they'd produce 2 boards to save a couple dollars in production. It would seem to me that the costs to even do such a thing would off set the advantage.
 
I think they are having problems with the falcons.

Quest everything else aside, what leads you to believe that?

It would be a sign that they've moved all the units over to simplified production with 1 main board. I seriously doubt they'd produce 2 boards to save a couple dollars in production. It would seem to me that the costs to even do such a thing would off set the advantage.

Well, I certainly agree. In my mind the question is not why would they add HDMI, the question is why wouldn't they? It would make no sense for the board in the core to be unique vs the standard Falcon. Maybe HDMI utility itself is omitted to save some licensing fees, or to positively reflect in terms of value on its more expensive siblings, but the silicon certainly will still be identical to that of the other 360's.
 
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I think they are having problems with the falcons. I don't think they will have much falcon stock this holiday season. I don't see the core being around this holiday season. I think we will see the core come spring time once falcon production is ramped up. I am curious what they will do with the core once it comes back. With MS wanting to turn a profit in the near future they pretty much have to ditch the core for now.

That is what I just posted in the other thread MRCUR said. Problems with the Falcons..

Who really knows, though. We dont even know if his info is good..

If it is true they are having "problems" makes one wonder if the half-assed priced cut was a stopgap measure in the meanwhile.
 
I wouldn't put too much stock in MRCUR; his info was coming from someone else to begin with, and where that persons info was coming from, who knows. The more abstraction you add in, the greater the potential for partial-truths to be the result - even if the source himself has no intent to deceive at all, he's only as good as his own info. And I do think on some level there was a "good" source in that mix somewhere. But the 'problems' with Falcon goes a little far IMO, because if there were problems, then it never should have been "expect Falcon at retail" to begin with from him.

I think the simple matter is what we've been discussing all along - MS has some 90nm stock left to clear, the Zephyr board has proven an effective stopgap in terms of HDMI proliferation, and Falcon will just come when it comes.
 
I think the simple matter is what we've been discussing all along - MS has some 90nm stock left to clear, the Zephyr board has proven an effective stopgap in terms of HDMI proliferation, and Falcon will just come when it comes.

... ;)
 
Someone jumped the gun and hosted some pictures showing the holiday bundles in which both "Elite" and "Pro" versions of Xbox 360 will get a free bundle of Forza Motorsport 2 and Marvel: Ultimate Alliance.

media

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161928

Kinda reminds me of the Jet Set Radio/Sega GT bundle with the origonal Xbox.

If they're going to throw in both those games for free, wow, that's a nice tactic.

Heck, Forza 2 is even a decent game unlike the usual pack in crap.

Like I say, it just all adds to the consumer perception that they are buying something "fully loaded".

And it one-ups Sony's single game pack in.
 
Quest everything else aside, what leads you to believe that?

Some of it from what MRCUR has said and some of my own expectations.

I was trying to give MS the benifit of doubt with such a modest price cut all around. I thought they were trying to clear the channels of old stock premiums to make way for the falcon introduction. It turns out the channels were not so full of premiums as I had thought as lots of reports of them being sold out. I figured soon as the channels were clear the falcon would arrive. Instead they are just using elite motherboards. The modest price cuts were not to clear channels but to turn a profit ASAP off of the higher cost 90nm elites. If the falcon was close I would of assume the price cut would of been at least 50 maybe more across all SKUs.
 
I was trying to give MS the benifit of doubt with such a modest price cut all around. I thought they were trying to clear the channels of old stock premiums to make way for the falcon introduction. It turns out the channels were not so full of premiums as I had thought as lots of reports of them being sold out. I figured soon as the channels were clear the falcon would arrive. Instead they are just using elite motherboards. The modest price cuts were not to clear channels but to turn a profit ASAP off of the higher cost 90nm elites. If the falcon was close I would of assume the price cut would of been at least 50 maybe more across all SKUs.

Falcon is definitely close - it's all shades of gray.

IMO the move to thwe Zephyr boards makes perfect sense, and is the perfect reconciliation between the previous issue of HDMI introduction into the market, and the shift from 90nm to 65nm. With the Zephyr-to-premium method, they rolled it out uniformly along with the price cut, and they can now introduce Falcon "stealth" into the channel at their leisure... likely when 90nm stocks are sufficiently depleted. Remember that if MS has a lot of 90nm chips lying around, they're going to manufacture new consoles on the old design, even if Falcon is ready to go. Falcon will enter the scene when those chips are soaked up.

Whether the price cut was 'enough' or not I think is a separate matter entirely from the production-side, because for all intents and purposes, their *cost* structure has already shifted towards 65nm. Any 90nm chips on hand were already paid for, and it simply becomes a matter of writing them off then if they get tossed... which MS isn't going to do. And in any event, whatever the gusto (or lack thereof) in only a $50 cut, I think that that in conjunction with the HDMI news has gotten people excited and spurred sales. Sometimes people really don't need much in order to get them off the fence.
 
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