xbox 360 confirmed pricing

[jvd]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/642/642645p1.html

11/29 in the uk ?

 

[NavNucST3]

On the save game issue, most people I know have thumb drives, hell I have three just sitting here next to me on the night stand. So thats not that big a deal, but damn, if you are going to come out first, come out swinging, just seems like a missed opportunity for MSFT.
On the other hand, I am happy for my bretheren overseas who seem to be rather happy at the pricing.

 

[Titanio]

I dont really understand why this a big deal? I dont think sony said HDD is gonna be standard and Nintendo isnt using one. Besides MMPORGS I dont know any genres this gen that require a HDD as bare minimum.

It's called expectation management.

A lot of people expected a) the HDD to be standard and b) for there to be one SKU at $299. Sony has said pretty clearly that the HDD likely won't be standard. And Nintendo, funnily enough, is now likely the only one that'll have standard internal storage.

The accessory prices are pretty appalling, although there was some rumour before that MS would seriously be trying to make some money off them.

This also gives Sony pretty much a blank check in terms of PS3 pricing. $500 wouldn't seem bad value compared to $299 + $99 for wifi, when consider everything else you're also getting. I doubt PS3 will be that much.

 

[valioso]

I don't think you can equate the price of the 360 to the PS3. I personally think that it won't be crazy to see a $499 price tage for the PS3....but if somehow i'm wrong...and the PS3 does come out for $399...then wow...but thats WAY to far off to speculate on pricing...look what happened with the 360, this was a total surprise to alot of people...but I had a inclination that MS would shoot out 2 SKUs.

Actually I think that if Sony can match or not be far off they will announce their price before the 360 releases, effectively killing it. If they don't say anything other than Kutaragi just making quotes then I will say is a good indication of brace yourself and hang on tight for the ride.

 

[wco81]

£23 for 64mb? PS3 definitely has the advantage there. I can grab a 128mb SD card for £10, 256 for £18, and prices will keep dropping. I can even get a 128 mb MemStick for £15. At the moment the PS3 is looking much more consumer friendly with no need for costly Wifi network adaptors and the like. Even if XB360 launches cheaper in the long run it's looking more expensive.

I thought you could only do game saves for the PS3 on Memory Stick Duos?

The other memory card formats are so that you can load photos and music only but not game content?

It's the Magic Gate DRM, which is only on the Memory Sticks. Plus I'm sure Sony wants to share common game save media between the PSP and the PS3.

Still the high price of the X360's memory unit is basically pushing people towards the $399 option. It's like the Mac Mini upselling people to iMac G5s because when you add memory and other stuff, you're arond $1000 anyways.

 

[Nite_Hawk]

On the other hand, I am happy for my bretheren overseas who seem to be rather happy at the pricing.

Isn't this just England though? I thought everyone was afraid of 1 dollar = 1 euro pricing, which is what it looks like for the rest of europe?

Nite_Hawk

 

[Tap In]

wow

well I'm paying $100 more for what I thought I was getting for $299.

I can live with that.

Wireless controller
Headset
20gigHDD
Component cables AND
Remote control for DVD
for $100 which sell for $200+ separately

I paid EXTRA with Xbox1
Headset $20
Component cables $20
Remote control $30

so I still paid $370 4 years ago.

Not a big deal but a smart move in that $299 will sell more to casual users (where they'll make it up in custom add on peripherals) and the price for Europe is a GREAT move IMO.

It also leaves of room for profit *gasp* and a lot of room to move pricing once they have Next Gen competition.

I'm still in, but surprised.

 

[nelg]

It makes perfect business sense to me. There is no question that MS will have no difficulty selling a great deal of units until the PS3 is launched. At that time I would wager that MS would use all that cash they conserved to reposition the two SKUs at $199 and $299.

 

[Guden Oden]

A lot of people expected a) the HDD to be standard and b) for there to be one SKU at $299.

It's a bit of a letdown for sure, but overall the important thing is having the hardware delivered on time and at a decent price. X360 is a very powerful piece of kit, and I'm sure nobody will be disappointed just because not all consoles come with a HDD as standard.

In fact I foresee some good things coming out of this as well; less childishly gloating posts regarding PS3 NOT having a harddrive from certain people for example...

The accessory prices are pretty appalling, although there was some rumour before that MS would seriously be trying to make some money off them.

It was more than just a rumor, and $20 for a plastic faceplate is tantamount to highway robbery IMO, and $99 for the wifi adapter is iffy value at best when there's an ethernet socket built right in the box as standard. Then again, people won't have to buy these things, and I sure won't. A white colored console with a different colored faceplate just looks WEIRD IMO, so why really complain? I just hope the camera is sold for a decent price, whenever they decide to release it, and the wireless controllers don't seem to be excessively priced either compared to what controllers usually go for. At least not if one doesn't factor in the extra cost for the optional rechargeable battery. :|

 

[pso]

What this proves that the analysts were dead on concerning the 360 launching with 2 SKU's. Almost everybody waived it off as rubbish. Now they were proving right.

Other analysts or should I say Merrill Lynch, mentioned the manufacturing cost of the PS3 at around $494 here:

http://hardware.gamespot.com/Journals-J-4-4-26-21879431-x

So I think we should take the analysts predictions more seriously this time around.

MS and analysts basically owned everyone into believing the 360 will come standard with a HDD at $299. Most Sony fans thought the same thing as well.

I just hope the PS3 is not too expensive, because I really want both.

 

[jvd]

majornelson.com is getting nailed right now . Ign.com forums and teamxbox forums are sending thier traffic over there to post and complain .

 

[Magnum PI]

when I think to the countless times we were told by some xbox owners how the hard drive became nothing but a true necessity for the modern consoles..

well ... time to change your stance guys !

 

[Tap In]

form the Peter Moore interview:

Peter: I think that a large majority of people all over the world will be buying the Xbox 360 systems ($399). Europe is a much more price-sensitive market, in particular continental Europe, where the primary mode of distribution becomes what is known as the hyper-markets. It's incredibly important for us to offer that 299 euro price point. We've got great aspirations, as you know, to build critical mass in this next generation, and doing that without offering a competitive price point in all markets is something that we thought would be a negative.

At the same time, we wanted to offer a value package system with the Xbox 360 that gave what we believe every next generational gamer is looking for, the ability have storage, to have videos, music, to have photos, great games in minimum 720p, and the ability to use wireless technology, everything we've shown in all the demos we shown you, and everything costs money. But the ability to have a hard-drive alone costs $100. So we really think the consumer will recognize the value and step up. But there are some people who just don't want to do that. They may upgrade later on, and that is what the core system is all about.

Sounds like building a foundation in Europe is the driving force behind this strategy.

reading on re: his thoughts on a release date, I would not be surprised to hear (later) that the launch date is closer to the week of Thanksgiving than Nov 4th as had been previously speculated. :neutral:

 

[Almasy]

Wow, this is about the worst thing MS could have done to themselves. These prices are almost evil. At least people won´t see with such benevolent eyes at MS anymore, and no more stupid "Neener neeener we´ve got a HDD and you DON´T" discussions anymore.

 

[pso]

majornelson.com is getting nailed right now . Ign.com forums and teamxbox forums are sending thier traffic over there to post and complain .

They should complain, afterall, alot of people including myself that preordered thought we were getting the 360 with a 20GB HDD for $299. I'll fork over the money for the premium no problem, but I think alot and I mean alot of preorders might be cancelled.

 

[Tap In]

when I think to the countless times we were told by xbox owners how the hard drive became nothing but a true necessity for the modern consoles..

well ... time to change your stance guys !

I am pro HDD but never said it was "necessary".

It is only necessary for me because I hate, hate, hate, (I'm using the word hate here ) buying and using memory sticks and because there ARE many games that will take advantage of the HDD which will result in more seamless worlds with less loading screens (as was the case on several X1 games).

for a small upgrade price I like the "Value" bundle with the HDD and remote and headset and component cables (not necessary for all the STDTV users who will not upgrade to HD in this generation).

 

[wco81]

Maybe this high pricing will lull Sony into launching at a higher price than they otherwise would have.

Then MS has room for a price cut ahead of Sony's launch.

Actually, if it's selling well a year after launch, no reason for MS to cut prices.

Hmm, to get HDTV experience, you have to pay $40 for the component plus $40 for the memory unit. That means you're at $380 for the Core.

So the $399 definitely has component cables? What abotu the Play and Charge functionality? What is the optional battery pack for?

As for the Wifi unit, you wonder if 802.11a support, since it runs on a different frequency, added significant costs. Plus 802.11a isn't that widely used so it may be more costly from not having economies of scale. I heard that 802.11a is better for video streaming than b or g. MS really wants you to stream stuff from a Media Center Edition PC, which they also want you to buy.

 

[Tap In]

They should complain, afterall, alot of people including myself that preordered thought we were getting the 360 with a 20GB HDD for $299. I'll fork over the money for the premium no problem, but I think alot and I mean alot of preorders might be cancelled.

when i asked Game Crazy at the time of my preorder they could give me NO solid info on estimated pricing and said that it could be as much as $500 and knew nothing nor promised anything of what would be in the box.

 

[V3]

I think I'll get the $299 one. But what's up with the standard AV cable ?

This console meant to be for HD era, can't they include the HD AV cable in standard pack ? I am not gonna buy extra stuff for it, so it will just be to add it to my collection, I'll plug it in on an old TV, where the Super Famicom is (Which I am going to retire since Rev going to be backward compatible.)

Also what about backward compatibilty? I hope I don't need Live and Hdd for that, since I am not gonna get any launch game so I am only buying it for the purpose of collection and BC mainly. Don't think I'll buy any X360 games, till I see one I like.

 

[jvd]

V3 its not worth buying the standard .


With the standard u get

console
controller


with the preimum

console
component cable
wireless cable
headset
remote
backwards compat
hd content (wtf that means)



U factor in memory card price on the core package and your at 340$ and now backwards compat no compontent cable ...