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ugh so to be safe i need to install w10 preview on my laptop that have unactivated W8.1 for years -___-

too lazy to do that. I guess ill simply stick to unactivated W8.1 :p (i dont want to activate it with pirate version because its originally genuine but then refuse to re-activate after come back from Asus service center)

but if W10 have warning as lax as W8.1 (give blue screen showing your PC need to be activated every couple hour) ill upgrade.
 
Microsoft backtracks on july 29th release date: Link

I don't know what is the cause of this, but MS seems to have a permanent case of foot-in-mouth disease with regards to Win10. The number of PR flubs and miscommunications and broken half-promises over this product is quickly mounting up, starting quite some time ago when 10 was first said to be free, then it would not be free, then it was free again - for win7 and up anyway. Or it might not be free for OEM users, but then it was again. And so on.
 
What's the backtrack? I don't remember them ever saying Windows 10 would not be free. Pretty sure they said it was free for Windows 7 and 8 users from the start. Only details I remember being unclear was OEM.
 
Microsoft backtracks on july 29th release date: Link

I don't know what is the cause of this, but MS seems to have a permanent case of foot-in-mouth disease with regards to Win10. The number of PR flubs and miscommunications and broken half-promises over this product is quickly mounting up, starting quite some time ago when 10 was first said to be free, then it would not be free, then it was free again - for win7 and up anyway. Or it might not be free for OEM users, but then it was again. And so on.

I'm not aware of any. It was mostly the press latching on to things and claiming stuff. In the original blog post that the press claims they offered it free to pirates , it never said such a thing.

Anyway the release date is still the 29th of July. I don't see the problem there . The only difference which is a smart one is that they will run a compatibility check on your hardware and software instead of just installing a new windows that could break software on your system
 
So they have pushed out 3 new builds in the last week.

Latest one is feeling quite nicely polished.
But man they are still coming across as nowhere near a release candidate let alone a fixed release date later this month.

For my part while I've Reserved, I'm intending to refuse to allow my Win7 to update for a month or so on the assumption that there will be some hitches/broken builds for a while :yep2:
At least, unless I get carried away in hype or something :runaway:


From the viewpoint of a small ISP helpdesk I'm glad that they won't be pushing it out to everyone first day.
Last thing I need is a bunch of over-eager customers incorrectly blaming me for it breaking their internet/expecting me to walk them through the new GUI.
 
But man they are still coming across as nowhere near a release candidate let alone a fixed release date later this month.
How is Spartan or whatever they chose to name it shaping up? Haven't read any word in a while about it now, only when it was new, and then features seemed to be missing and rendering accuracy maybe wasn't the best either and so on. It'd be nice to see a little review of its current state, if you feel up to it. Thanks! :D
 
Latest one is feeling quite nicely polished.
But man they are still coming across as nowhere near a release candidate let alone a fixed release date later this month.
I've not tested the latest build that much, but previous builds I've had showed some clear and immediate issues (mostly minor), but this build pretty much everything I've tried appears to be working and nothing immediately obvious has shown itself.

How is Spartan or whatever they chose to name it shaping up? Haven't read any word in a while about it now, only when it was new, and then features seemed to be missing and rendering accuracy maybe wasn't the best either and so on. It'd be nice to see a little review of its current state, if you feel up to it. Thanks! :D
Well, it now installed in the task bar as the defauly browser icon, but my prior reservations concerning this to not be a desktop friendly interface are still there so I'm not using it myself. I hate not having a nice expandable folder view for favourites and being forced to click through full folders and jumping back for other folders.
 
Just learnt they dropped Silverlight in the latest Edge version, which is interesting ...
 
Considering they stopped all silverlight development years ago it's surprising they ever supported it at all I'd say, unless support was simply grandfathered in from reheated IE11 code... :)
 
Yeah, but when they were announcing its demise, they said they would support it until October 2021.[6] But if it doesn't go into its new browser (and Chrome already drops support this year as well), then that's basically end of lifed this year already.
 
it also comes with IE for legacy sites.
so in that regards it's still supported, just not in their default browser.
 
Yep, but it will mean having to keep around a browser noone wants to use and that will eventually not be as well supported for security updates, etc. Or Microsoft will have to keep IE11 around until that time and keep giving it security updates ...
 
Microsoft are used to that, I believe Internet Explorer 8 is supported till 14 July (Windows Server 2003 EOL) and it's quite old. Vista runs IE9 so IE9 is supported till at least 2017 and those are minimum dates.
 
I noticed that the Pandora app is not yet available for Windows 10 so I used their Spartan / Edge browser to view the Pandora web interface.

Ugh. On my Lenovo laptop, Edge spun an entire core to 100% utilization, which then invokes CPU turbo mode on that core, which then starts ramping fan speed and dishing out heat along the left edge of the box. So now I've got 3GHz of Core i5 assigned to playing Pandora?

Downloaded Chrome, and it needed less than a single percentage point of CPU usage to do the same. CPU stayed at ~1.3GHz, fan stayed off, power usage went down by multiple watts. Wtf, Microsoft? I submitted a bug report.
 
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