Unofficial sales: JAPAN 18/12 - 23/12

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Hardware:

DSL 485,584
Wii 279,277
PSP 138,588
PS3 76,882
PS2 46,209
Xbox360 17,213
GBM 2,394
GBASP 1,858
GC 1,250
DS 380
GBA 57
Xbox 11

Official Hard Sales.

Awesome DS,PSP and Wii.
 
Yeah (though i dont know enough about sales in EU to be sure) but I think the point is that this would be progress for MS (to actually 'win' a territory this gen), whereas its a step down for Sony (to 'lose' 2 of them).
 
I'd like to remind everyone to use sensible arguments not just one-liners which are usually prone to misunderstandings etc. It's hard to debate if your post doesn't even contain enough letters to spell your name.

EDIT: Phew, now I barely made it over one line...
 
Here is more fun, courtesy of Gaf again

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | Total 2006 Sales | Lifetime Sales

1.) Nintendo DS Lite - 485,584 | 319,708 | 7,247,105 | 7,247,105
2.) Nintendo Wii - 279,277 | 108,237 | 823,311 | 823,311
3.) PlayStation Portable - 138,588 | 48,962 | 1,780,498 | 4,463,454
4.) PlayStation 3 - 76,882 | 70,942 | 385,831 | 385,831
5.) PlayStation 2 - 46,209 | 37,730 | 1,412,066 | 20,116,690
6.) Xbox 360 - 17,213 | 17,168 | 177,227 | 247,793
7.) Game Boy micro - 2,394 | 1,491 | 142,159 | 557,848
8.) Game Boy Advance SP - 1,858 | 1,867 | 219,003 | 5,913,297
9.) GameCube - 1,250 | 1,152 | 75,031 | 4,168,621
10.) Nintendo DS - 380 | 158 | 935,304 | 6,582,253
11.) Game Boy Advance - 57 | 42 | 3,408 | 8,823,058
12.) Xbox - 11 | 3 | 1,766 | 475,609

Pretty much self explanatory, year to date and life to date's included.

WW Ninty is prob pretty close to 3 m Wii's (have easily shipped that many). 800k in Japan probably means 800-1m in America and EU as well.

PSP seems to have proven that it's a solid second platform. It's totally crushed by DS, but isn't going away either. Couple that with it still gets software support, and third parties still probably have an easier time on it than DS where Nintendo software tends to monopolize. (MGS portable ops PSP sold well for a recent example..)

Xbox 360 appears to me to be tracking above Xbox. It sold 17+17+30=64k the past three weeks. If it can do 3k a week for the next 48, plus another 75 next Dec, it will do another 225 in the following year, which would put it near to above Xbox totals. Of course that will make the 2 year mark, and I think Xbox only had 3.5 years itself. Also, eventually, ms will sell combined 1 million of something in Japan.

DS is interesting in that it's going to hit a saturation point. DS+lite sales are currently at 13.8m. You see the sat point for Japan with PS2, about 20m. At the absurd rate DS's are selling (.5m this week alone, at least 100k even on slow weeks) it's going to chew through that next 5-6m very quickly. I dont know what happens then. Maybe all the original DS buyers pick up lites too. But even if half do, that only staves off the sat point by another 3m. Another possibility is the sat point itself grows much larger due to DS's supposedly broader appeal. Still, in a way DS is running out of room..
 
DS is interesting in that it's going to hit a saturation point. DS+lite sales are currently at 13.8m. You see the sat point for Japan with PS2, about 20m. At the absurd rate DS's are selling (.5m this week alone, at least 100k even on slow weeks) it's going to chew through that next 5-6m very quickly. I dont know what happens then. Maybe all the original DS buyers pick up lites too. But even if half do, that only staves off the sat point by another 3m. Another possibility is the sat point itself grows much larger due to DS's supposedly broader appeal. Still, in a way DS is running out of room..

I was curious about that recently too. What happens when it hits a saturation point? I wonder if it can sell 25-30m? With the speed it's selling, it's either going to hit a brick wall real fast or it's saturation point is going to be something completely unheard of. Pretty crazy, either way!
 
I was curious about that recently too. What happens when it hits a saturation point? I wonder if it can sell 25-30m? With the speed it's selling, it's either going to hit a brick wall real fast or it's saturation point is going to be something completely unheard of. Pretty crazy, either way!

Well it seems the DS is pulling in a new gamers so I would bet the saturation point is going to be much higher than the PS2 or any console. Nintendo has expanded the hand held market in japan and other places with the DS. Games like brain training and nintendogs play to a whole new crowd. I would not be surpised to see the DS get a whole new set of gamers when DQ9 hits the shelves. I see no end in site for the DS domination of japan.
 
Also saturation point for handhelds is higher than for consoles, since every person in a family can have one. We used to have 5 DS at home, for example (down to 4 now since I gave one to my brother).
 
Also saturation point for handhelds is higher than for consoles, since every person in a family can have one. We used to have 5 DS at home, for example (down to 4 now since I gave one to my brother).

That's true. Never really thought of that. A family may have 1 or 2 of a console at most, but have 2+ of a handheld (depending on family size and such).

I can't imagine young kids really want to share their gameboys.
 
Another thing that can help raise the saturation point for handhelds is colors. They are basically cheap enough that you can get the latest cool color even if you already have one. I'm sure Nintendo will be doing that with the Wii also... give it some midlife boost with different colors.
 
Another thing that can help raise the saturation point for handhelds is colors. They are basically cheap enough that you can get the latest cool color even if you already have one. I'm sure Nintendo will be doing that with the Wii also... give it some midlife boost with different colors.

Didnt they show different colored Wii's back when it was still codenamed Revolution? ;)

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Looking at the DS Lite figures, I was thinking they'd pretty much supercede PS2 eventually...and then I noticed the original DS figures! Nintendo know Japan!
 
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