Legion said:there is a part in T2 where arnold states that sky-net AI inhibits the terminator drones from thinking. This is related in a scene after rescuing John's mother.
JOHN
Can you learn? So you can be... you know.
More human. Not such a dork all the time.
Terminator turns towards him.
TERMINATOR
My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning
computer. But Skynet presets the switch to
"read-only" when we are sent out alone.
SARAH
(cynical)
Doesn't want you thinking too much, huh?
TERMINATOR
No.
JOHN
Can we reset the switch?
CUT TO:
88 E.C.U. OF AN X-ACTO KNIFE cutting into Terminator's scalp at the base
of his skull. His voice calmly directs Sarah as she spreads the bloody
incision and locates the maintenance port for the CPU in the chrome
skull beneath.
TERMINATOR
Now open the port cover.
She wipes away the blood and uses the garage-mechanic's air tools to
unscrew the port cover.
88A TERMINATOR POV (DIGITIZED) as he watches her work in a mirror they've
taken from the washroom. Sarah and John are standing behind him.
Her hands are covered with blood, like a surgeon's.
TERMINATOR
Hold the CPU by its base tab. Pull.
Following the instructions, she reaches in with a pair of tweezers and
PULLS -- there is a BURST OF STATIC and the screen goes BLACK.
CUT TO:
89 TIGHT ON JOHN AND SARAH looking at what she has removed. A reddish-
brown ceramic rectangle with a connector on one end. About the size
and shape of a domino. On close inspection it appears to be made up
of small cubes connected together. It is identical to the shattered
one in the vault at Cyberdyne Systems. Now we know it is that that
Miles Dyson values so highly. The brain of a terminator.
89A WIDER. John walks around Terminator and looks at his face.
Eyes open, he is completely inert. Dead.
John lifts his huge hand. The dead servos whine sullenly as he forces
them. It's like rigor mortis. He releases the hand and it stays in
the lifted position. Sarah examines the CPU chip.
JOHN
Can you see the pin switch?
She ignores him. See looks at Terminator.
The back at the chip.
Then she sets it on the work table and picks up a small sledge hammer.
John realizes what she is about to do. Dives at her as the sledge is
whistling down.
JOHN
No!!!!
He slaps his hand down over the chip.
Sarah barely stops the sledge before smashing his fingers.
SARAH
Out of the way, John!
JOHN
No! Don't kill him!
SARAH
It, John. Not him. It.
JOHN
Alright, it! We need it!
John keeps his hand right where it is.
SARAH
We're better off by ourselves.
JOHN
But it's the only proof we have to the future...
about the war and all that.
SARAH
I don't trust it! These things are hard to
kill, John, believe me, I know. We may never
have this opportunity again.
JOHN
Look, Mom, if I'm supposed to ever be this great
leader, you should start listening to my
leadership ideas once in a while. 'Cause if you
won't, nobody else will.
Smart kid. He's got her. She nods, reluctantly. He palms the chip
and studies it minutely.
89B John takes a pin and moves the almost invisible switch to the other
position.
It is now in "write" mode. Then he grimaces as he inserts the wafer
back into the slot in Terminator's skull.
89C TERMINATOR VISION flares back to life in a burst of static. The image
forms. Sarah and John stands behind him in the mirror.
TERMINATOR
Was there a problem?
John glances sheepishly at Sarah, Then smiles at Terminator.
JOHN
No problem. None whatsoever.
jvd said:Legion said:there is a part in T2 where arnold states that sky-net AI inhibits the terminator drones from thinking. This is related in a scene after rescuing John's mother.
I wouldn't see why the drones need to think . They have a simple goal. Kill humans. Thats all the a.i needs to know ... well that and what a human is .
Legion said:jvd said:Legion said:there is a part in T2 where arnold states that sky-net AI inhibits the terminator drones from thinking. This is related in a scene after rescuing John's mother.
I wouldn't see why the drones need to think . They have a simple goal. Kill humans. Thats all the a.i needs to know ... well that and what a human is .
Because the AI is enslaving them as it was "enslaved"
Ilfirin said:Hmm, I just watched T2 and that scene epic posted isn't in there. Instead of saying "My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning computer. But Skynet presets the switch to "read-only" when we are sent out alone. " He says "My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning computer. The more contact with humans I have, the more I learn." And that was it.
Also in T2 they say that the reason the AI went nuts is that they tried to shut it down after it became self-aware (paranoia), so it retaliated by attacking humanity. That isn't at all what happened in T3..
Hmm, I just watched T2 and that scene epic posted isn't in there. Instead of saying "My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning computer. But Skynet presets the switch to "read-only" when we are sent out alone. " He says "My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning computer. The more contact with humans I have, the more I learn." And that was it.
Also in T2 they say that the reason the AI went nuts is that they tried to shut it down after it became self-aware (paranoia), so it retaliated by attacking humanity. That isn't at all what happened in T3..
McElvis said:Hmm, I just watched T2 and that scene epic posted isn't in there. Instead of saying "My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning computer. But Skynet presets the switch to "read-only" when we are sent out alone. " He says "My CPU is a neural-net processor... a learning computer. The more contact with humans I have, the more I learn." And that was it.
That part was cut (with a few other small parts) from some releases. The version they tend to show on UK TV does not have that part in it, but my DVD from USA does.
Never worked out why they cut that part though...
Edit - Thanks JVD That does explain it as my DVD is the ultimate edition.
jvd said:was from the full scene before it was cut. THey felt it slowed the movie down
when i was 4 .. i think it was when i was 4 . I went to see the goonies . There was a gaint octpus in one scene and it went missing for all these years till the dvd came out.fbg1 said:jvd said:was from the full scene before it was cut. THey felt it slowed the movie down
Interestingly, I saw T2 on opening night and that scene was in it. Then I saw it again a few days later and it had been cut. That was my first direct experience with scenes being deleted from movies. I thought it was a shame, as that was a really good scene... At least it's back in the DVD, though.
Blade said:The T-800's information only pertains to the timeline in which Judgment Day occurs on August 29th, 1997. After Sarah, John, Miles, and th' Terminator decimate Cyberdyne's laboratories and postpone (or "stop" as they thought) Judgment Day, the future changes and doesn't necessarily have to unfold as the T-800 explained.
jvd said:when i was 4 .. i think it was when i was 4 . I went to see the goonies . There was a gaint octpus in one scene and it went missing for all these years till the dvd came out.
Ilfirin said:Blade said:The T-800's information only pertains to the timeline in which Judgment Day occurs on August 29th, 1997. After Sarah, John, Miles, and th' Terminator decimate Cyberdyne's laboratories and postpone (or "stop" as they thought) Judgment Day, the future changes and doesn't necessarily have to unfold as the T-800 explained.
Yes, I know, but that still leaves no real reason for the machines rebelling.
Perhaps it was T-X that caused everything when she infected that T-1 right as they were turning Skynet on?
John Reynolds said:jvd said:when i was 4 .. i think it was when i was 4 . I went to see the goonies . There was a gaint octpus in one scene and it went missing for all these years till the dvd came out.
Isn't the actor (Sean Astin?) who plays Sam Gamgee a little kid in the Goonies? Man, that's a movie I haven't thought of since 1985. And I used to have all 17 of my ticket stubs from the movies a buddy and I watched that summer. I think my favorite was the Mickey Rourke Year of the Dragon?
Oh, and T3 was excellent. I remember seeing something in my peripheral vision and it was a friend two seats down leaning forward during the chase scene.