Tecmo Pres Praises Xbox Next , slams sony

[akira888]

the point is you do not know what happened for temco to be upset with sony .how do you know that they weren't making a doa game and at the last second sony pulled thier deal .Or perhaps sony refused to give them a liscense .

These are all hypothetical counterfactuals - there is no possible was we could verify or refute them. As far as Sony not giving a license for DOA3 that's simply absurd on its face. All which a license implies is merely that the game boots up, it's not a "seal of quality" or else Mortal Kombat Advance would have never seen the light of day.[/quote]

 

[YeuEmMaiMai]

I guess your right, however I have a right not to

1. buy an x-box (an over rated windows 2000 machine IMHO, and a total failure form a financial point of view). I refuse to boy anthing MS outside of the PC realm. Microsoft is now reaping all of the trouble they created with their strong arm tactics. No one does Windows better than MS does and most people love the simplicity of XP but no one wants MS Windows in their cars running the show

2. Look down upon companies that blantantly slam others. (you know nintendo tried the strong arm tactic and now they are a distant 2nd now Sony is trying to be what Nintendo and soon it will hurt them)

People used to love Sony products and now they are finding out that the Sony of today definately is not the Sony of yesterday. The only quality products that they make are TVs and you pay out the rear for it.

Temco may be burning bridges that they may not be able to rebuild..

Thats what you think


Temco feels they have a right to say whatever they want about sony .

Do we know its true ? No , but its what temco thinks .


We listen to companys kiss sonys butt all the time , so why shouldn't we listen to those who slam them ?

Its a double standard .

I never see any of you complain when a company leaves nintendo and says something bad about them or a negative about the nintendo system .

 

[London Geezer]

1. buy an x-box (an over rated windows 2000 machine IMHO, and a total failure form a financial point of view). I refuse to boy anthing MS outside of the PC realm. Microsoft is now reaping all of the trouble they created with their strong arm tactics. No one does Windows better than MS does and most people love the simplicity of XP but no one wants MS Windows in their cars running the show

Yes you have the right to say what you want and have an opinion, but you have to be careful not to troll this place. That was borderline.

People used to love Sony products and now they are finding out that the Sony of today definately is not the Sony of yesterday. The only quality products that they make are TVs and you pay out the rear for it.

Where did you get that idea from? If anything, it seems people love Sony more today than they ever did, seeing sales numbers.

Temco may be burning bridges that they may not be able to rebuild..

True. But then again, they might have their incetives in the form of cash.

 

[Gollum]

No one does Windows better than MS does and most people love the simplicity of XP but no one wants MS Windows in their cars running the show

Not the best comparison. A friend of mine writes software components for car electronics and what he tells me about the way this software is patched together to work is almost scary sometimes...

buy an x-box (an over rated windows 2000 machine IMHO, and a total failure form a financial point of view)

Of course you're entitled to your opinions, as everyone else is. No one will force you to buy or play Xbox. Relieved now?

Why the fact that Xbox is a financial failure for MS should concern me as a gamer and customer is beyond me though, at least as long as it is obvious they're dedicated to the product and not going to pull out of it prematurely (which obviously would affect me). I care about the price and performance of the system, as well as the games that come out for it. Since there are many games that suit my taste, why shouldn't I get an Xbox and play them? Because underneath there's a Win2k core? That's as stupid a reason as it gets.

Where did you get that idea from? If anything, it seems people love Sony more today than they ever did, seeing sales numbers.

Which surprises me, since its no secret anymore that their products don't have the same quality they used to have and are way overpriced. The brand is still amazingly strong though, even after years of reviews telling people to stop assuming Sony = highest quality.
Quality products, but worth their brand image and price? Everybody has to decide for himself.

 

[YeuEmMaiMai]

it should concern you because if it does not start to make money how can MS continue to support it. eventually they will get smart and ditch the whole idea if they cannot turn a profit.

and lb, saying that the x-box is overrated is not trolling since i stated it was my opinion and definately did not slam the console.

facts about xbox

a runs win 2K (stripped down version) with D3D
financial failure

 

[MfA]

Microsoft can afford to loosing money, moreso than they can afford to let Sony go unchallenged while it tries to take over the living room.

 

[eDoshin]

I've been quite satisfied with Sony products. I have lots of televisions of various brands, but I have one 36" Sony tv that has lasted over 20 years and its still running strong even tho its on pretty much 16+ hours a day. I have never had a playstation break down on me. I chose a Sony digital camera, and also a Sony digital video camera after much research, and its worked out fabulously. They do not necessarily make the "best" products, nor are they the only company making quality products. I am just as satisfied with my Olympus digital camera as my Sony. All my audio components are more mid high-end products such as NADs and Definitive Technology b/c Sony has always been more middle of the road in this area. I've gone thru several Sony VCRs and walkmans, but then I've gone thru Toshibas, Pioneers, and Panasonics also. Bottomline is that as products go, they may just as well be a Kenmore or Maytag. Its just another manufacter with its ups and downs. They are not the trash that some people make them out to be. Nor are they the kings of consumer products. They just do a great job of selling their brand, and if their products sucked so bad, people would have stopped buying from them long ago.

 

[London Geezer]

it should concern you because if it does not start to make money how can MS continue to support it. eventually they will get smart and ditch the whole idea if they cannot turn a profit.

and lb, saying that the x-box is overrated is not trolling since i stated it was my opinion and definately did not slam the console.

facts about xbox

a runs win 2K (stripped down version) with D3D
financial failure

(Hey, can u believe it, i'm defending the Xbox, i guess today i'm the MS asslicker)

I didn't say you were trolling, i said it was borderline. I've been accused of trolling for much lighter things than those you wrote.

The Xbox doesn't run "a stripped version of Win2k". It's kernel has many things in common with Windows.
And yes, it's a financial failure, no one is denying that. Still, many people (as many as GC owners) seem to enjoy the Xbox, so there must be something good about it. Not much but hey... The fact that it's a financial failure shouldn't affect your purchasing choice.

Many things we buy are "financial failure", without us even knowing.

Also, remember that MS have a lot of cash to spend, if they believe the Xbox will one day even in the far future make them money, they will support it until then.

 

[AlNom]

it should concern you because if it does not start to make money how can MS continue to support it. eventually they will get smart and ditch the whole idea if they cannot turn a profit.

Yeah, guess what will happen when Xbox 2 arrives.

Xbox was just for MS to learn the console business, to see what works and what doesn't work.

 

[Fox5]

People used to love Sony products and now they are finding out that the Sony of today definately is not the Sony of yesterday. The only quality products that they make are TVs and you pay out the rear for it.

Sony TVs are definetely not my first choice...and do they even still make their own LCD and Plasma TVs?(weren't they outsourcing to samsung?) I'm sure their products aren't horrible though, probably the only thing that would differentiate a sony tv from another to most people is the default screen settings.

Many things we buy are "financial failure", without us even knowing.

A lot of people like America and some might term that a financial failure.

 

[PC-Engine]

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...atch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050117/sony2.htm



As far as plasmas are concerned, SONY only made the 32" plasmas. Their 42, 50, and 61" plasmas were outsourced from Fujitsu and NEC. Thier LCDs are rebadged Samsungs or other brands.

 

[Johnny Awesome]

Tecmo is a pretty good developer according to the press (gamerankings.com):

1. Ninja Gaiden XBOX 91.8%
2. Dead or Alive 2 DC 91.2%
3. Dead or Alive 2: Hardcore PS2 86.2%
4. Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly Director's Cut XBOX 85.8%
5. Dead or Alive 3 XBOX 85.1%
6. Dead or Alive Ultimate XBOX 84.9%
7. Dead or Alive PS 83.8%
8. Fatal Frame II: Crimson Butterfly PS2 82.7%
9. Rygar: The Legendary Adventure PS2 82.2%
10. Fatal Frame PS2 Tecmo 81.7%

I think that DoA: Xtreme Volleyball hurt the DoA franchise by reinforcing the notion in the mind of casual gamers that the series is "fluff". It was a bad move. If the volleyball portion of the game were great then things might have turned out differently. They can still salvage it though and I find it to be a pretty good fighter and very fun.

 

[Ty]

There are bugs in many products now, not just Sony.

Take for example, the Panasonic Plasma (7th commercial) I was going to buy. It has an S-Video issue where various parts of the screen are brighter than others (uneven brightness). In fact they're testing a new S-video blade that seems to help/alleviate but not necessarily remove this issue. But Panasonic won't even admit to this problem even though certain customers can get new blades if they complain enough.

Also there is another issue with the brightness of the entire screen ramping up and down very quickly depending on the contrast of the images being shown.

Both of the above is why I ordered an NEC plasma.

Bugs happen in all products.


Re: Outsourced PDP panels - Sony may even use a certain Samsung PDP for one size but I can't remember which, might be the fairly new 42 model. Nowadays, it's not so much the PDP quality as much as it is the quality of the electronics (which is where Fujitsu shines with their AVM and consequently Sony isn't so hot).

 

[one]

I think that DoA: Xtreme Volleyball hurt the DoA franchise by reinforcing the notion in the mind of casual gamers that the series is "fluff". It was a bad move. If the volleyball portion of the game were great then things might have turned out differently. They can still salvage it though and I find it to be a pretty good fighter and very fun.

What, even Mario has Peach. I'm fed up with testosterone. What's wrong?

 

[BriefcasemanX]

you are missing the point.


I think it is not cool for any company to slam another (unless the company released something that was a danger to consumers such as the ford pinto or a total scam like the Savage 2000).

If Sony and Temco had a deal that fell out then that is really not a reason.... what happens when X-box dies and sony and Nintendo are the only ones left? Then they have a few choices

1. go with the N

2. Kiss Sony's large rear

3. leave home console and concentrate on Arcade only (a declining area)

Things would be a lot better if people and companies where not constantly bashing or trying to out trash talk the other.

the point is you do not know what happened for temco to be upset with sony .

how do you know that they weren't making a doa game and at the last second sony pulled thier deal .


Or perhaps sony refused to give them a liscense .

Or just switch ALL of their development to Sony instead of MOST. You're acting like Tecmo doesn't develop for Sony.....

Tecmo wants dev stuff and Sony isn't giving it to them Only the big guys get dev stuff now, thus giving them more time to make launch titles and making the smaller companies have to rush stuff out or not have anything available at launch, keeping the big guys at the top of the food chain. I don't know the whole situation but I would be pissed if I was Tecmo too. Sony doesn't give a crap it knows it can do whatever it wants.

 

[Sonic]

Sony cannot do whatever it wants. The company has more breathing room than Nintendo and Microsoft but that doesn't mean they can go ahead and do whatever the hell they want. The still need to work with 3rd parties to get them to develop games for the platform, especially exclusives. Sony also has to work just as hard to get the consumer to stay with the Playstation brand. Just because their number one doesn't mean they can sit back and relax and do whatever they want. If they did that then I'd surely expect them to be the next Nintendo and SEGA when it comes to completely losing marketshare and no longer being the big influential player they once were. That's how it stands.

 

[one]

If there's one thing I like to add to this old news, it's that this rant from the Tecmo president was taken from their press conference to announce earnings. In such an occasion, it's likely that toward investors he had to justify their continuing exclusive commitment in the Xbox platform with their flagship titles rather than going cross platform.

 

[AlNom]

It is rather illogical for them to stay pro-xbox, financially speaking and for a japanese developer that is. Itagaki sure loves the power......

 

[Gubbi]

It is rather illogical for them to stay pro-xbox, financially speaking and for a japanese developer that is. Itagaki sure loves the power......

That depends on the amount of $$$ MS pumps into them.

And as has already been mentioned Tecmo the publisher is not XBox only. Team Ninja the studio is.

Cheers
Gubbi

 

[London Geezer]

It is rather illogical for them to stay pro-xbox, financially speaking and for a japanese developer that is. Itagaki sure loves the power......

Not necessarily, if the rumors are true, Tecmo will have 6 months to realease games on Xbox2 and on nothing else, so financially it's better for them to stay "open".

But yeah i agree with whoever said they're just sulking cause Sony is giving lots of info to the big guys but not them...