Sony PS6, Microsoft neXt Series - 10th gen console speculation [2020]

[Charlietus]

AMD doesn't have competing GPU hardware for RT today compared to last-gen's Nvidia boards. The 4090 was such a huge leap from 3x to 4x, I don't see the next-gen consoles having that equivalent. Raster performance isn't really going to be a big factor in 2028 as most studios will have full RT game engines and will have moved away from raster pipelines. The CPU won't really matter much as long as it's within reasonable speeds to not bottleneck the GPU. Those are my rationale thoughts on the matter.

Intel got ai hardware and ray tracing right on their first try, out of the blue. AMD keeps using area constrained solutions that have limited performance, but they are perfectly capable of building similar hardware to Nvidia and Intel if they are given the necessary budget. And with the Sony collab, it's two companies wanting a competitive product.

 

[VFX_Veteran]

Intel got ai hardware and ray tracing right on their first try, out of the blue. AMD keeps using area constrained solutions that have limited performance, but they are perfectly capable of building similar hardware to Nvidia and Intel if they are given the necessary budget. And with the Sony collab, it's two companies wanting a competitive product.

From past history, AMD has never been able to make a console equivalent in power to even their own highest-end GPUs. I'm not wishing again as some may do. Just going off of trends.

 

[iroboto]

From past history, AMD has never been able to make a console equivalent in power to even their own highest-end GPUs. I'm not wishing again as some may do. Just going off of trends.

I think we predicted about 2070 performance for this generation and it landed around that. I am expecting about 5070 performance for the next generation, if the generation stretches very long maybe 6070 performance.

These are reasonable positions of the higher end of mainstream hardware.

 

[Charlietus]

From past history, AMD has never been able to make a console equivalent in power to even their own highest-end GPUs. I'm not wishing again as some may do. Just going off of trends.

I'm talking about efficiency, not raw power. The 500-600$€ consoles are going to be around the xx60-xx60ti of the 2027-2028 generation, the 250-300$ videocards equivalents, with more VRAM available. Anyone thinking that any console in the future is going to take the power crown is dreaming.

Unless someone makes a 4000$ console for some dumb reason

 

[Dominik D]

From past history, AMD has never been able to make a console equivalent in power to even their own highest-end GPUs.

Well, "able" does a lot of heavy lifting here. AMD delivers what customers ordered. It's pretty common for customers to want less then the peek hardware vendor offers. Both MS and Sony want as much as they need to be competitive in their space and not anything beyond that.

All this talk about most powerful hardware is wishful thinking from people who obsess over numbers. Console manufacturers license from the entire portfolio based on market predictions, not by ordering by performance and hitting "buy" on the first entry.

 

[VFX_Veteran]

I think we predicted about 2070 performance for this generation and it landed around that. I am expecting about 5070 performance for the next generation, if the generation stretches very long maybe 6070 performance.

These are reasonable positions of the higher end of mainstream hardware.

A 2070 is below/at 1080Ti so I agree. A 5070 is nowhere near a 4090 in raw throughput, so I'll agree with that as well.

 

[Pinstripe]

A PS6 base model for $400 should be about as fast as a PS5 Pro that's currently selling for nearly twice as much.