Rumble Roses developer on PS3 & X360

[dukmahsik]

"GI: What do you think you could pull off on one system that you could not on another?

Uchida: I think there are some things you can do with the PS3 than you cannot with the 360. The processing speed is much quicker. The rendering variation that the PS3 offers is wider. But the online of the 360 is amazing and is probably better than the PS3."

I wonder why he(and others) don't talk about the Xenos being more powerfull compared to the stock G70 in the current PS3 devkit. You would say it's more powerfull(on paper) but then again I haven't seen any 360 game that given me proof of this yet.

maybe you need to decide when the games are actually released and certaintly not 1st gen games for both consoles?

 

[London Geezer]

what did denoc say then?

That it's not that easy. He said many things.

 

[3roxor]

maybe you need to decide when the games are actually released and certaintly not 1st gen games for both consoles?

I already know what will be released on the Xbox360 namely what we saw + maybe some mildly extra polish.

 

[dukmahsik]

That it's not that easy. He said many things.

since you said that's not what deanoc stated then you need to back it up otherwise don't sing and dance

 

[dukmahsik]

I already know what will be released on the Xbox360 namely what we saw + maybe some mildly extra polish.

so ur basing your decision on what we've seen on games that are not finished. nice. i hope u think the same of ps3 games.

 

[London Geezer]

since you said that's not what deanoc stated then you need to back it up otherwise don't sing and dance

Don't expect me to repeat what's been said on here by other users. There is a search function here you know. I don't have to prove anything to anyone, i just said DeanoC said they will not be within 80% of their power. He replied to me last time this came up that's why i remember.

And you really have to drop the attitude man.

 

[mckmas8808]

Off-topic: I think people here should stop saying the following quote.

even worse they somehow think that PS3 is going to allow this. Is this really based on comments from KK and things he said in interviews? because if it is, I think everyone is falling for the same hype/shit they did last gen.

I see no reason why we should believe what he says about furthering physics and animation in the next-gen systems. It's not right that when a brillant man like Carmack makes a statement that he is seen as a god of programming (which he should be), yet when Ken Kutargi makes a statement about what the PS3 will be able to do we just pass it off as hype. I mean the last time I checked he is the Father of Playstation. I think he deserves the rightful respect to tell us what will happen in the near future with videogames.

We can pull some quotes from our own Search to complete what Shifty is saying. It has been said numerous of times. Shifty isn't doing anything but paying close attention like me. A guy from SCEA is on the natural motion website talking about the advancements that these next-gen systems will have as far as animation is concerned. And if you ask me it's only the beginning. There shouldn't be anymore clipping in games, games like Madden should give me 1000s of different personal tackles, and in 3rd person shooters characters looking around the corner shouldn't pop back and forth they should smoothly looking around that corner.

This is the next-generation and we should demand change. Wasn't that someone's slogan somewhere.

 

[expletive]

wow everyone is cranky this morning

 

[dukmahsik]

Don't expect me to repeat what's been said on here by other users. There is a search function here you know. I don't have to prove anything to anyone, i just said DeanoC said they will not be within 80% of their power. He replied to me last time this came up that's why i remember.

And you really have to drop the attitude man.

what attitude? u attack my thread and you said what i say is incorrect and you don't care to back it up saying that so and so says differently. to me that is dancing you're way out.

i can also say blah and blah states differently too and not back it up. how's that for a conversation? i expected much more from a senior poster.

 

[Shifty Geezer]

im looking at the real games shown so far, i still see flat sided models on things such as wheel fenders, spectators, etc. the whole point of graphics is to push realism. you can't tell me you will be seriously happy next gen graphics 5 years from now?

Yes, perhaps scenery etc. would benefit, though I imagine it'd require a considerable improvement in GPU capabilities to go from say PGR3's crowds to something noticeably a lot better (and remember those are first-gen crowds). I'd still prefer more accurate and diverse animations to better scenery and models then what's appearing now.

 

[3roxor]

so ur basing your decision on what we've seen on games that are not finished. nice. i hope u think the same of ps3 games.

In that Kameo game the Devs said it's basically done so.. good thing to base myself on I would say. I will think the same of PS3 games when they are on final devkits.

 

[dukmahsik]

Yes, perhaps scenery etc. would benefit, though I imagine it'd require a considerable improvement in GPU capabilities to go from say PGR3's crowds to something noticeably a lot better (and remember those are first-gen crowds). I'd still prefer more accurate and diverse animations to better scenery and models then what's appearing now.

well i like both to be honest. i agree that better physics is much needed next gen. ragdoll physics like in halo 2 are somewhat underwhelming.

 

[London Geezer]

what attitude? u attack my thread and you said what i say is incorrect and you don't care to back it up saying that so and so says differently. to me that is dancing you're way out.

i can also say blah and blah states differently too and not back it up. how's that for a conversation? i expected much more from a senior poster.

1) DeanoC is not Blah blah. If you don't know him, your problem not mine.

2) We've been through that "being within 90% of each other's power" many times before, that's why i'm short.

3) When did i attack you? You're just being very defensive, i can't say anything that you get cranky. I certainly didn't get up on the wrong side of the bed, i only made very simple comments, you're the one who attacked me.

 

[dukmahsik]

In that Kameo game the Devs said it's basically done so.. good thing to base myself on I would say. I will think the same of PS3 games when they are on final devkits.

okay you're basing it off of one game then.

 

[dukmahsik]

1) DeanoC is not Blah blah. If you don't know him, your problem not mine.

2) We've been through that "being within 90% of each other's power" many times before, that's why i'm short.

3) When did i attack you? You're just being very defensive, i can't say anything that you get cranky. I certainly didn't get up on the wrong side of the bed, i only made very simple comments, you're the one who attacked me.

im pretty much done with you if you can't back up what you said. and i didn't call him blah and blah. if you have definitive proof they are not within 90% of each other i'd like to know.

 

[3roxor]

okay you're basing it off of one game then.

Basically..YES and from there I make connections to the other launch games who all have to follow the same timeline. We will see if I'm right in a few months.

 

[scooby_dooby]

Yes, perhaps scenery etc. would benefit, though I imagine it'd require a considerable improvement in GPU capabilities to go from say PGR3's crowds to something noticeably a lot better (and remember those are first-gen crowds). I'd still prefer more accurate and diverse animations to better scenery and models then what's appearing now.

i want games to look like the new CryTek demo.

GOW and MGS are still a far far far way off IMO.

 

[dukmahsik]

Basically..YES and from there I make connections to the other launch games who all have to follow the same timeline. We will see if I'm right in a few months.

what do you think of kameo then?

 

[expletive]

Personally i think the whats in the PS3 alpha/beta kits are likely a much better approximation of final hardware than the 360 alpha/beta hardware. Particularly if RSX ends up being a higher clocked G70.

J

 

[blakjedi]

Huh?! Is that even english?

DeanoC said they won't be within 90% of each other.

Acert quotes DeanoC in his sig, and in that quote he says that they (the XeCPU and Cell - he never said the PS3 and X360 generally) should be within 85-90% of one another.. *shrug*