Rumble Roses developer on PS3 & X360

dukmahsik said:
im pretty much done with you if you can't back up what you said. and i didn't call him blah and blah. if you have definitive proof they are not within 90% of each other i'd like to know.

Look kid, it goes like this:

YOU said: "I think they're within 90% of each other's power"

So i ask you, can you back up your claim?

If you can't, then how dare you attack me and my post methods for merely repeating what a developer stated a few times already.
 
blakjedi said:
Acert quotes DeanoC in his sig, and in that quote he says that they (the XeCPU and Cell - he never said the PS3 and X360 generally) should be within 85-90% of one another.. *shrug*

And when confronted with it a second time, he was actually a bit pissed off cause that sentence was taken out of context.
 
london-boy said:
And when confronted with it a second time, he was actually a bit pissed off cause that sentence was taken out of context.

Thats interesting. I actually remember reading the thread he wrote that in when he wrote it and the context seemed accurate. Dont really remember the thread he said it in since we've talked this issue in a 1000 threads...
 
london-boy said:
Look kid, it goes like this:

YOU said: "I think they're within 90% of each other's power"

So i ask you, can you back up your claim?

If you can't, then how dare you attack me and my post methods for merely repeating what a developer stated a few times already.

that's the problem you didn't repeat anything other than that's not what he said. lol
 
scooby_dooby said:
i want games to look like the new CryTek demo.

GOW and MGS are still a far far far way off IMO.

To be honest both GOW and MGS's atmosphere to me seem better than that Crytek demo imho. The Crytek demo looked nice, but didn't seem to be as big of a change as GOW or MGS. Again my personal opinion.
 
blakjedi said:
Acert quotes DeanoC in his sig, and in that quote he says that they (the XeCPU and Cell - he never said the PS3 and X360 generally) should be within 85-90% of one another.. *shrug*
That quote was ONLY talking about a software rasterizer on the CPU's, and nothing to do with overall system performance nor performance in different aspects of games such as physics, AI, yadayada.
 
london-boy said:
Whatever man, i've proved my point, you never did.

what point was that? u seem to think i was refering to what DeanoC said when i stated the consoles will come within 90% of each other. it's only you who ASS/U/MEd it.
 
OK, the other thread was locked, so I`ll post question here. Is the Konami making Rumble roses game for X2? Did Konami make MGS trailer for ps3?
 
Lysander said:
OK, the other thread was locked, so I`ll post question here. Is the Konami making Rumble roses game for X2? Did Konami make MGS trailer for ps3?

Yes to both.
 
I was curious about something... I hear these broad statements about "x is better than y" but the problem with such a statement is that it may be true in some instances but not others. Or maybe x is better at some things while y is better at others. Or heck, maybe x isn't as good as y at anything but because y is held back by something else then x ends up looking better in the end.

I bring this up because I hear the statement "Xenos is better than RSX" or vice versa quite often, but it doesn't seem like it would be anywhere near that simple. I think that we can assume that Xenos will have more usable bandwidth due to its EDRAM, and we know that the Unified Shaders are supposed to be more efficient. But those two things alone don't necessarily guarantee the graphics crown either.

I'm definately no hardware expert, but isn't it possible that both chips have things they will do better than the other? And as much as I may have hoped it would be otherwise, I'll agree with Jawed that it seems like the RSX will be a faster clocked G70 with maybe a couple slight tweaks.

If we look at PC hardware, it looks like the R520 is going to be clocked substantially higher than the G70, yet they are supposed to be within the same ballpark performance-wise. Because of the difference in hardware, one requires a faster clockspeed to keep up with the other. I guess where I'm going with this is that you have to take a holistic viewpoint when looking at any architecture.

My guess is that devs will be doing things with the hardware in a few years that we haven't even considered yet, as is usually the case when you have 5+ years to work with a single hardware setup. So, some of these limitations we're seeing with each setup could be worked around, while others never will.

To sum it up, I didn't really prove anything and I wasn't exactly technical with my response, but I wanted to hear some other people's opinions on two things... Is it possible for each GPU to be better at certain tasks than the other (given what we know), and is it possible that due to clever developers we may end up seeing some of the features thought to be much better on one system actually performed relatively comparably?

Well, enough of my rambling... any responses would be appreciated.
 
Well first and foremost I have always thought it was TOTALLY stupid for people to say that the Xenos is going to be better than the RSX. We don't even know what the hell RSX has in it. But you know it is what it is.
 
scooby_dooby said:
I thought that, based on the numbers they gave at E3, it's pretty much a no brainer that it's very close to the G70...

Just a 550Mhz G70. Yes, but the very big difference is the close relationship between CELL and the RSX, so both can support "each-others" which greatly increases performance or effects (or both).
 
Nemo80 said:
Just a 550Mhz G70. Yes, but the very big difference is the close relationship between CELL and the RSX, so both can support "each-others" which greatly increases performance or effects (or both).
Yes, it's called FlexIO, which fits in place of the otherwise redundant PCI Express interface on G70.

Jawed
 
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