PS3 to run at 120 fps?
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cyberheater
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Yes but the game won't be pushing much in the way of geometry.
Could for instants PS3 run PGR3 at 120fps. No.
Could for instants PS3 run PGR3 at 120fps. No.
Makes you wonder why Ken even stated it. Or why I even bothered to post it. 
It would have been more newsworthy if Ken was suggesting that developers are having no problem hitting or exceeding 60 fps, but this is almost another slap in the face for PS3 developers who are trying to meet Sony's extremely high expectations on next gen games and still reach and maintain 60fps.
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It would have been more newsworthy if Ken was suggesting that developers are having no problem hitting or exceeding 60 fps, but this is almost another slap in the face for PS3 developers who are trying to meet Sony's extremely high expectations on next gen games and still reach and maintain 60fps.
-aldo
I think, just like Kutaragi has added provisions for 1080p, he also sees future standards at 120fps and he wants PS3 to be ready for it.
If anyone wants to have a go at translating the article themselves it's here:
http://arena.nikkeibp.co.jp/expo/news/20051028/114052/
Babelfish implies aspirations to conform to a future 120fps standard but it's just a machine translation.
If anyone wants to have a go at translating the article themselves it's here:
http://arena.nikkeibp.co.jp/expo/news/20051028/114052/
babelfish said:
Babelfish implies aspirations to conform to a future 120fps standard but it's just a machine translation.
scooby_dooby
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That's one of the stupidest things I've read in my life.
What's hilarious, is some people actually defend the comment.
Talk about meaningless pie-in-the-sky hype.
What's hilarious, is some people actually defend the comment.
Talk about meaningless pie-in-the-sky hype.
scooby_dooby said:That's one of the stupidest things I've read in my life.
What's hilarious, is some people actually defend the comment.
Talk about meaningless pie-in-the-sky hype.
I'm not defending it, I think it's hopelessly unrealistic to expect 120fps in next gen games. I was merely pointing out that Gamespot might have been a bit liberal in their interpretation of the NikkeiBP story.
mckmas8808
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scooby_dooby said:That's one of the stupidest things I've read in my life.
What's hilarious, is some people actually defend the comment.
Talk about meaningless pie-in-the-sky hype.
You obviously are not understanding what he is trying to say. But I didn't expect you to either so...
While I think it's unlikely we'll actually see software running at 120fps, there's nothing technical that stops a TV from running at least 720P at that refresh rate provided it is hooked up via DVI/HDMI. It's easily within the interface's video bandwidth. It might even be possible to do via component (which is essentially VGA with encoded synch signals), seeing as 1080i is perfectly doable on that interface.
As for the comment about geometry... NONSENSE. Games simply aren't geometry limited and won't be even next generation. For starters, it'll be prohibitively expensive memory-wise to actually design art assets that'll push the vertex shaders to their limit. I'm 200% certain there wouldn't be ANY problem running a silly car game that has mostly fixed geometry ( = very simple transforms) at even faster framerates if there were no other bottlenecks in the system.
As for the comment about geometry... NONSENSE. Games simply aren't geometry limited and won't be even next generation. For starters, it'll be prohibitively expensive memory-wise to actually design art assets that'll push the vertex shaders to their limit. I'm 200% certain there wouldn't be ANY problem running a silly car game that has mostly fixed geometry ( = very simple transforms) at even faster framerates if there were no other bottlenecks in the system.
Alpha_Spartan
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Kutaragi's fat mouth moves at 120 fps (fullofshit per second). Seriously, release more PS3 details or shut the hell up, Kenny.
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Two screens, 1080p, 128 bit color, 120 fps, why not? It's a supercomputer.
Alpha_Spartan
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All of that technology in a $400 console! It's totally possible.
SentinelQW
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Yeah. Following: XBOX 360 software running at 240 Fps...
If PS3 can drive two HDTVs @ 720p or above, I can't see why it shouldn't be able to do 120fps on a single screen.
Actually I would rather like to see how 120fps looks.
More than a few times I've noticed stroboscope effects, with fast movement and high contrast at the current 60fps.
Edit: Now that I think about it, maybe, just maybe, RSX can render "real" motionblur (aka temporal AA) internally, somewhat like multisample AA, with less bandwidth and none of the memory hit that the brute force approach has?
Maybe that could be what the 120fps means (because you still need to transform the geometry @ 120fps)?
Actually I would rather like to see how 120fps looks.
More than a few times I've noticed stroboscope effects, with fast movement and high contrast at the current 60fps.
Edit: Now that I think about it, maybe, just maybe, RSX can render "real" motionblur (aka temporal AA) internally, somewhat like multisample AA, with less bandwidth and none of the memory hit that the brute force approach has?
Maybe that could be what the 120fps means (because you still need to transform the geometry @ 120fps)?
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