Megadrive1988
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Is a 2.5 Tflop GPU for the next Xbox reasonable?
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Sometimes 5x the traditional paper flops = 10-20x the visuals.
Why not?
Ninjaprime
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Not really. Also quantifying something visual with numbers like "10x!!11oneone" is ridiculous.
bgassassin
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I agree. I went with it due to a lack of better wording a the time.
COPS N RAPPERS
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3 to 4 would help more, if it's going to be 8 years. ( I hope waiting an extra year should pay off generously.)
Oh, ok, I misunderstand him, I thought he meant that it is not feasible to reach 2.5tflops.
Megadrive1988
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Sure a 3 to 4 Tflop GPU would be nice, but I was just trying to be realistic. Granted, the next Xbox will have to last around 8 years, so yeah, 3~4 would be great. All I'm hoping for is a console that can run Frostbite 2.0 games at 60fps, while engines that push the hardware more run at 30 frames. I'd be happy if resolutions stayed at 720p for the most demanding games.
Well that's a reason why I think the Sony should go with a "wii for core gamers", if they can afford something it can't be that expansive. MSFT has no reason to let them any advantage.
MSFT many strengths seems to come together, the next box could have proper OS, the matching app store, they can still subsidize the hell out of it, they won the US, they have Kinect.
Still I don't see how Sony could go cloud only, infrastructures are still not ready and when they are sometime the ISP business model works again cloud gaming.
Then putting the whole technical issues aside there is the big question of the validity of the cloud model. I would like to see how much it costs to put together and maintain the infrastructure for any reasonable user base (in millions) without "error 37" kind of incidents becoming the bread and better of the gaming press... I think that the 300 millions they spent is a miss-investment anyway. I can only imagine the face of the share owners when a few months after the buy out Onlive bombed raising a lot of question about this business model and if it's ready for prime anytime soon.
Not to take too seriously without further information, still I found bothering the lack of noise surrounding the ps4, not a single leak from a respectable sources. For the xbox next we at least got the name and the fact that developers are working on it. Next example last Bink update.
LightHeaven
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It doesn't have to be for 8 years... I would bet Ms is moving to shorter hardware cycles, and have people locked on the platform, like Apple...
I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Ms had hardware refreshes evey other year, and still maintained compability to previous models (at least for a little while) while bringing new stuff exclusive to the new hardware...
At least in the framework department they seem to be ready for that (WinRT being a cross platform enviroment, that they can put pretty much anywhere, and the whole focus of Dx11.1 being scalability)
Megadrive1988
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My guess is a 1.5 ~ 2.5 Tflops GPU, in no way am I expecting 3~4 Tflops, Just wanted to be clear.
BGAssassin and other people who might have some interesting info about the new generation, could be our only sources to know info about Durango, because companies like Sony with their new PS4 and Microsoft aren't going to be forthcoming with info.
The development of the new console caused that Microsoft are going to ramp up security at their headquarters, more specifically where it's home to the Xbox team.
This security changes will apparently affect Microsoft Studios A, B, C, and D on the west side of state Route 520 --wherever that is.
It looks like Microsoft will be implementing new physical security measures too. These new security protocols are meant to limit employee access at a few key Xbox and Interactive Entertainment Business buildings in order to ensure total secrecy and complete confidentiality of upcoming products.
http://n4g.com/news/1091333/microsoft-boosts-xbox-hq-security-as-company-gears-up-for-next-console
The development of the new console caused that Microsoft are going to ramp up security at their headquarters, more specifically where it's home to the Xbox team.
This security changes will apparently affect Microsoft Studios A, B, C, and D on the west side of state Route 520 --wherever that is.
It looks like Microsoft will be implementing new physical security measures too. These new security protocols are meant to limit employee access at a few key Xbox and Interactive Entertainment Business buildings in order to ensure total secrecy and complete confidentiality of upcoming products.
http://n4g.com/news/1091333/microsoft-boosts-xbox-hq-security-as-company-gears-up-for-next-console
More security=less leaks
Not necessarily, most of the infos come from devs. But the security increase is interesting, because the hardware design is supposed to enter finalization.
You know, that'd be an excellent way to run themselves and everybody else in the industry into bankruptcy.
How would anyone afford essentially pushing the installed user base counter reset button to zero every year when big-budget titles can cost $100M to produce? Console platform works only because of fixed system that stays the same for years. If hardware was a constantly moving target all that would come crashing down.
Also, if you had to buy a new console every year to play the latest games, not only would you piss off all your customers of previous hardware when their stuff becomes junk just a year - at most! - down the road (good luck trying to sell a single console more than 6 months into its lifespan...
), the console hardware itself would have to be very cheap and hence very weak, since people can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars on consoles every year, and hardware manufacturers can't afford to subsidize their hardware each time a new box is released.This is the craziest idea I've ever heard. Ok, Chaphack's idea that what we now know as the xbox 360 would release with a 10GHz intel "tejas" processor maybe was even crazier. It's hard to objectively tell which idea is the worst offender!
Besides, Apple's model isn't to change hardware every year and make everything new exclusive to this year's product. If it was, there's no way they'd reached the position they're in now. Instead, iOS 6 works on the iPhone 3GS, which was released like...3.5 years ago, or something. Their schtick is as close to the current console business model as you can get, and still update hardware on a yearly-ish basis.
This Pastbin dude is at it again and honestly I think he might as well type in a gpu from Mars while he's at it
http://pastebin.com/N8rXsnxr
http://pastebin.com/N8rXsnxr
goldenlight
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I agree , there is various leak about xbox next , but almost none about PS4
the lekaed Bink, also only listed Durango, before removed from the web.
The purpose of leaked PS4 document seems to made (sorry) PS3 owner happy.
The Document specifically listed 1.8 TF figures. it is almost like advertisement.
Then after this leaked document is so much euphoria about this, and forgetting little fact.
If i remember the Gaikai owner itself said about only 2 console maker will go
into nextgen, or maybe just like u said, the other going into wii route.
wii-u is wii nextgen version. so we left with Sony and MS.
Just like Aegis said
Also Microsoft boosts Xbox HQ security
http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-...fts-boosts-security-xbox-hq-advance-hardware/
I suspect MS targetting 2.5+ TF maybe if we lucky 3+ TF.
This Pastbin dude is at it again and honestly I think he might as well type in a gpu from Mars while he's at it
http://pastebin.com/N8rXsnxr
This can come true only if Sony delays PS4 to late 2014... and that is not a good move.
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