Predict: The Next Generation Console Tech
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And for the most part irrelevant, alpha kits are really just to allow the OS developers to develop and developers to work with the OS in a similar environment to the final target.
Yap. Thats HD6800-6900. Or HD7800-7900.
Of course, but it still gives rough estimates. Well, we would be better of with target specs but...
Yeah... it's just a bunch of outputs.
Here's a 7970 with the same config:
All it takes is for some vendor to use blue plastic, so I wouldn't look at it as confirmation other than it's some dual-slot GPU capable of a ton of output types.
At least we know it can't be 6670.
My bet would be HD6800 or HD6900 card since these dev kits where probably sent earlier than they could get 7 series cards. They have exactly the same outputs as those on dev kit. But its not like it matters which gen GPU is, developers already have target specs.
My bet would be HD6800 or HD6900 card since these dev kits where probably sent earlier than they could get 7 series cards. They have exactly the same outputs as those on dev kit. But its not like it matters which gen GPU is, developers already have target specs.
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Well yea, he did take a picture of MS tag, might as well go all the way.
Yap. Those are definitely HD6800-6900. (notice the screw below HDMI on both).
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/12/ati-radeon-hd-6970-review/hd-6970-1-l.jpg
Yap. Those are definitely HD6800-6900. (notice the screw below HDMI on both).
http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/12/ati-radeon-hd-6970-review/hd-6970-1-l.jpg
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Did a little digging, and these are the only cards I could find which match the exact port/vent config and DVI color of the pictured dev kit. (Although, it should be mentioned that, as the port and vent config. is reference, it could just as likely be a reference card with blue DVI ports)
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-III-1G-OC.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-III-Power-Edition-OC.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-II.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6870-Hawk.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-III-1G-OC.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-III-Power-Edition-OC.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6950-Twin-Frozr-II.html
http://us.msi.com/product/vga/R6870-Hawk.html
Hypothetically, ignoring performance, would it matter which GPU you used in the dev kit at this point. At this early stage of development, are architectural considerations as far the GPU is concerned a factor?
The reason I ask is because the 6800 series is VLIW5, 6900 is VLIW4. Would someone working on a dev kit even worry about that at this point? We assume that the next consoles will be GCN based, but maybe a shrink of VLIW4 would be more power efficient for a console. It doesn't need to have great DP compute performance.
The reason I ask is because the 6800 series is VLIW5, 6900 is VLIW4. Would someone working on a dev kit even worry about that at this point? We assume that the next consoles will be GCN based, but maybe a shrink of VLIW4 would be more power efficient for a console. It doesn't need to have great DP compute performance.
Yeah.
It is rather silly not to show the inside considering the guy already removed the screws for the side panel (the manual indicates the lock is for the front bezel covering the hot-swappable HDDs).
I'd guess (largely from the asset tag in the picture) that the guy taking the pictures isn't the person whose office it is.
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MSI actually got something similar with the blue ports and the caps.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1796/1/
It isn't necessarily that card because MSI R6000 series (6800-6900) use blue ports (but 6850 have different grille) http://event.msi.com/vga/R6000/
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1796/1/
It isn't necessarily that card because MSI R6000 series (6800-6900) use blue ports (but 6850 have different grille) http://event.msi.com/vga/R6000/
Yeah... it's just a bunch of outputs.
Here's a 7970 with the same config:
All it takes is for some vendor to use blue plastic, so I wouldn't look at it as confirmation other than it's some dual-slot GPU capable of a ton of output types.
Which is why I said "reference model", as 7800's and 7900's have only 1 DVI in reference models, and the whole 2nd slot backplate is grill.
You'd want to minimise the changes from a feature set (not necessarily performance) standpoint between the devkit GPU to the final one for two reasons.
Less additional work for the GPU driver team when they get final hardware.
Allowing devs to experiment early with features specific to the hardware.
Obviously that's predicated on the availability of the GPU's you'd prefer in the box.
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Comparing this:
it looks like the former would support 4K display output via a single cable only up to 50 Hz, whereas the latter would support 4K display output via a single cable up to 60 Hz
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Yeah... it's just a bunch of outputs.
Here's a 7970 with the same config:
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All it takes is for some vendor to use blue plastic, so I wouldn't look at it as confirmation other than it's some dual-slot GPU capable of a ton of output types.
My powercolor 7970 actually even has the blue plastic, but still as you say that is confirmation of nothing.
It doesn't matter. Development kits are there just to give developers environment to work with, they are not replicas of retail machines. AFAIK, first Xenon development kits where Ati 9800, they later updated with x800 before final silicon was done (and final was much better than this).Comparing this:
it looks like the former would support 4K display output via a single cable only up to 50 Hz, whereas the latter would support 4K display output via a single cable up to 60 Hz
Does it have little screw under HDMI port? Because that little screw is there with MSi 6870-6950 cards as well as in development kit.
Yes. It's essentially Alstrong's pic with blue plastic.
Yea, but that one doesn't have two screws on the left side like one in development kit.
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