Predict: The Next Generation Console Tech

I can't seem to find it now, but someone was asking about stacked/interposer timetable. Here's a couple more references.

Hynix's outlook:

And another roadmap:



The interesting thing to note on the roadmap is that Sony (and their manufacturing partner Toshiba) dominate the 2 lower categories, cmos imagers and MEMS sensors. They are also now involved with Power & RF components. While they aren't involved with manufacturing memory, they would be considered a large consumer and thus an influencer in that category which also ties back to the top category which is what has been discussed here as also a Sony interest.

All in all when looking at this roadmap, it's no wonder why Sony would be mentioned as being active.

 

why not Jaguar core?
a lot of them

 

then.. why not a VIA CPU?

I'm not fond of a sea of weak cores. the most demanding thread becomes a bottleneck for everything else (as with Amdhal's law)

 

Which one is jaguar? I'm so behind on modern CPU tech... *sigh*

 

that's because you only need to worry about the AMD... errr

 

Is it possible to modify a BD core to make it run SPE codes? If not, is it feasible to integrate the CELL to PS4 as a secondary CPU?

One last question, would you let Sony be the only one with x86 CPU next-gen, if you were MS?

 

Jaguar is "next gen Bobcat"

 

if sony really is using an amd cpu jaguar is the most energy efficient, and is ready to be produced at tsmc
just saying
a bunch of 3ghz jaguar core that leave a lot of budget for the gpu, or even the possibility to integrate them in the gpu

 

Bobcat isn't designed to hit frequencies that high. It exists in the roughly 1-10W range, while cores that hit 3GHz are in the 10-100W range.
It's mostly impractical to have a design that tries to span more than one order of magnitude, so the next low-power core from AMD most likely won't try.
If anything, AMD is more interested in cutting the power use, which makes 3 GHz less reachable.

 

https://twitter.com/#!/stephentotilo

 

The bare metal instruction lengths are on the order of hundreds of bits. That would be awfully slow.

On the other hand, they could design an entirely new encoding for the frontend. Just replace x86 with an instruction set with a reasonable encoding and exactly the same semantics. Shouldn't be hard.

 

When he says Samaritan on flash, you just have to shake your head

Btw, in that link. Molyneux is leaving MS and Lionhead.

http://kotaku.com/5890594/peter-mol...tudios-and-microsoft-will-finish-kinect-fable

 

Speaking of the "Samaritan" demo, Rein noted that when they showed it off last year, it took three Nvidia cards and a massive power supply to run. However, they showed it off the demo again that ran using a new, not yet released Nvidia card and one 200 watt power supply.

Rein said that graphics technology has advanced even faster than Epic thought it would. He, not surprisingly, said that Unreal Engine 4 is "blowing people's socks off" and that there was no going back after seeing that level of graphics... however, Unreal Engine 4 was not show off to the press.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-03-08-gdc-epic-aiming-to-get-samaritan-into-flash

[it has to be a missquote, 200w gpu fits]

 

why? He was not saying at what technical specs it was running.. 720p 30fps No AA?

 

Perhaps with a mesh like Tilera's: http://semiaccurate.com/2009/10/29/look-100-core-tilera-gx/.

Amdahl's law is not a serious problem for games; outside scientific computing and digital signal processing there can't be many applications with more inherent parallelism. The problem with fine-grained parallelism isn't the application, it's the programming language. Leaving C++ will be painful, but staying might not be much better.

 

So they're not showing ue4 at all or will they show it behind door today?

 

Here is the info about updated version of Samaritan demo [and video of it]
http://www.geforce.com/News/article...-running-on-next-generation-nvidia-kepler-gpu

They switched 4xMSAA with FXAA.

 

Ok to answer my own question, they did just show UE4 to a selected few behind doors. Here's a few inserts from an interview.
http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mi...rything-i-could-get-out-of-epic-vp-mark-rein/

I really hate it when Rein teases like that.

Spoiler

where's anonymous when you need them to hack his pc