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Oh dear ... well, that's clearly a regular, 2D title that just uses the basic webcam, no 3D or motion controls. Could have been a PS2 title 6 years ago!
No it couldn't because of the background removal. This sort of background removal has been limited to green-screening up until now. To extract live video elements and put them in a game is quite impressive, if a little shonky at the moment.
 
No it couldn't because of the background removal. This sort of background removal has been limited to green-screening up until now. To extract live video elements and put them in a game is quite impressive, if a little shonky at the moment.

Is it live? I thought it was just cutting you out once from a picture and then auto-generating the animation from that. If not, then you're probably right and it is more impressive. The game though ... it looks like a very bad version of Rag Doll Kung Fu (which I personally liked, but not very many people did).
 
Good find! It probably was the PS3 version then. Edit : Actually could well be the PC version, as that'd be most readily to hand. Edit 2 : Found YouTube clip. Definitely PS3!
This shows trouble with the background removal, but that's due to the low contrast. Natal should be pristine in all circumstances (then again, how will it cope with flowing clothes?). Looks like a quality title and fun game to boot.

:no: The video says "This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds".
 
Wow Natal will require an AC adapter I didn't expect that, I suppose the USB port doesn’t have enough power for the internal processor.

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Motorized tilt mechanism? What’s this, I guest natal will make little adjustments to keep track of the person on camera, or maybe is just to keep Natal balanced.
 
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:no: The video says "This video contains content from Channel 5, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds".

Heh heh, found a video on the official site:
http://www.virtualairguitar.com/games/kung-fu/about/

Here're the dates for seeing it in-person: ^_^
http://www.virtualairguitar.com/games/kung-fu/

Tour Dates
Gadget Show Live - April 4-11, Birmingham, UK
New York Design Week - May 14-17, New York, USA
E3 - June 15-17, Los Angeles, USA
GDC Europe - August 16-18, Cologne, Germany

There should be some limitations to this technology.

They should be able to track better (a la Puppetry demo) and use weapons with a Move controller.


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Motorized tilt mechanism? What’s this, I guest natal will make little adjustments to keep track of the person on camera, or maybe is just to keep Natal balanced.

Yap ! I have always thought Sony and MS should put their cameras and motion controllers on a wireless mobile platform so we can play with it like a robot (Aibo !). Would be useful for some applications. ^_^
 
Wow Natal will require an AC adapter I didn't expect that, I suppose the USB port doesn’t have enough power for the internal processor.

That's certainly surprising. Of course, it is a debug unit. We don't know what the final hardware requirements are.

However if that is close to the final design, it's a lot deeper than I anticipated. I'm very surprised it's motorized.
I'm also a bit concerned it's more complex than anticipated.. That usually means more expensive.

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That xbox design has an awfully large ring of light. :mrgreen:
 
Debug unit, perhaps? Surely they wouldn't let slip the 360 Slim design like this, would they? :LOL:

No. :)
I haven't seen any teeny-tiny debug units popping up (and if I did, I wouldn't be saying so :yes:).
I imagine it's just funny custom art. But you never know... :mrgreen: They may have gone mad and put USB ports on the bottom too :p


In any case, someone has massively broken their NDA.
 
Very surprising about the tilt motor & AC adapter. There goes the hopes of a low cost package. The tilt motor makes sense, makes it easy to align no matter if it's on top or below the TV. Just wished there was some way to hang it off the top of my TV since I have mine mounted to a swivel arm.

Also nice to hear about the voice command training & the hundreds of commands like "Turn on the Xbox 360" or "Go to Facebook".

Tommy McClain
 
BTW, any possibility of accelerometers in the thing to make sure it's level? If the rumor is true about MS removing or downsizing the chips, maybe they did that in order to accommodate the tilt motor?

Tommy McClain
 
Does it need to be perfectly levelled to work ? It seems like an overkill to incorporate a new sensor for one setup purpose.
 
Wow, the Natal peripheral looks much more complex (and larger) than I was expecting, so does it actually swivel to track players who may be going outside it's current FoV?
 
I think the motorized swivel will allow Natal to bundle a built-in security (home surveillance) app. ^_^

There is no real need for an accelerometer in the hardware.
 
There is no real need for an accelerometer in the hardware.

Most likely, but before today nobody thought there would be a tilt motor either.

BTW, remember it only says "tilt", I don't think the motor will allow it to turn horizontally.

Tommy McClain
 
If it's only for tilting, it's less interesting. Requiring AC is a bigger surprise.

I hope it can swivel as well as tilt, I mean if they're already doing tilt how much more would it cost to let it swivel as well.

I would rather not have it powered but at least the AC power cord joins the USB cable and only one cord leads to the actual peripheral, which is much neater than having two cables - you would probably connect the USB cable to the port on the rear of the console anyway so it'll be close to the powerpoint in most set ups.
 
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