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Let's not go there, there's no information to be gleaned from amazon preorders. Not to mention that I don't think anyone really questions that Kinect will do better than Move. The gizmodo thing isn't comparing the two, it's saying that MS' showing was even better than Nintendo with the freaking 3DS and its dozen+ promised games.
 
They're both 'just blogs'.

I follow both, Gizmodo is longer running and more 'cult'.
Engadget is more straight up facts. It's like Kotaku vs Joystick.

Gizmodo also has all the big stories, like the iPhone 4 prototype leak. Gizmodo is also more independent, and will speak out regardless of advertiser lashback.

And anyway, actual devs like Joker seem to agree with Gizmodo's point of view.

Gizmodo is, and always will be a joke.

Also, it's a bit over the top to say "actual devs like joker", when the harsh reality is, he's the only "dev" here professing such an outrageous point of view, that Sony has "lost their way". They are no different now than they were a decade ago, prototyping multiple types of technology, experimenting, and releasing things to the public to 'see what catches'. I could list dozens of examples, but the short sweet answer is: People will always side with a company that presents them with a product they like. It's human nature. Taking those opinions to heart, or as evidence of fact, is silly. In this case, Gizmodo clearly isn't into the Sony product, and feels that other companies offer them similar experiences. To say the company was the biggest loser of E3, however, is nothing short of sensationalist journalism, a ploy to generate traffic among 'core gamers'. It's amateur writing, and laughable (as are most of the articles Gizmodo publishes).

Enough bashing to them though. Back on topic.

I find it interesting that so many people are missing a key factor with motion controls. Everyone is so busy talking about the accessibility and functionality of these devices, but no one is talking about the immersible nature of the software. I read a post on GAF that made me think about this. The immersion is probably the single biggest selling point for these devices, and I'm kind of ashamed to say I'd never thought about it yet.
 
I saw that. The Kinect camera should be useful for more than full body skeleton analysis. It should be possible to recognize say, hand gestures only. May want to give MS some time to sort things out. It is not uncommon in software projects to stall and then pick up momentum suddenly (once a difficult issue has been resolved).

I think the dancing game, we just saw the unprocessed, depth map image (skinned) for the two secondary dancers.

For the record, Natal was supposed to allow 4 players to play, how are they going to do Buzz style quiz shows now - it apparently can't differentiate between voices either (again contrary to the initial vision).

Gizmodo is, and always will be a joke.

Also, it's a bit over the top to say "actual devs like joker", when the harsh reality is, he's the only "dev" here professing such an outrageous point of view, that Sony has "lost their way". They are no different now than they were a decade ago, prototyping multiple types of technology, experimenting, and releasing things to the public to 'see what catches'. I could list dozens of examples, but the short sweet answer is: People will always side with a company that presents them with a product they like. It's human nature. Taking those opinions to heart, or as evidence of fact, is silly. In this case, Gizmodo clearly isn't into the Sony product, and feels that other companies offer them similar experiences. To say the company was the biggest loser of E3, however, is nothing short of sensationalist journalism, a ploy to generate traffic among 'core gamers'. It's amateur writing, and laughable (as are most of the articles Gizmodo publishes).

Enough bashing to them though. Back on topic.

I find it interesting that so many people are missing a key factor with motion controls. Everyone is so busy talking about the accessibility and functionality of these devices, but no one is talking about the immersible nature of the software. I read a post on GAF that made me think about this. The immersion is probably the single biggest selling point for these devices, and I'm kind of ashamed to say I'd never thought about it yet.

Sensationalist they definitely are, but a 'joke'? They did break the biggest tech story of the year, and they have the likes of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs as readers.

And Joker is probably the only dev who actually posts regularly here and gives in depth insights into a range of topics. He seems to take a lot of cop as the SDF vehemently disagree with what he tells them and prefer their own version of reality.
 
I think the dancing game, we just saw the unprocessed, depth map image (skinned) for the two secondary dancers.

For the record, Natal was supposed to allow 4 players to play, how are they going to do Buzz style quiz shows now - it apparently can't differentiate between voices either (again contrary to the initial vision).



Sensationalist they definitely are, but a 'joke'? They did break the biggest tech story of the year, and they have the likes of Bill Gates and Steve Jobs as readers.

And Joker is probably the only dev who actually posts regularly here and gives in depth insights into a range of topics. He seems to take a lot of cop as the SDF vehemently disagree with what he tells them and prefer their own version of reality.

Breaking a tech story by luck doesn't make you a serious tech blog. The manner in which you report your content, "blog" or not, determines how you are received, IMO.

Anyway, I'm not going to comment much on joker or his insights. In short, they are unreliable and full of conjecture, essentially taken to be true because no one can prove it wrong.
 
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