Official February 20, 2013 Playstation event

The way i look at it is, you can't compare the price. Lets say the cost of 8gb ddr5 memory is $150. Since the ps4 will be mass produced it won't cost anywhere near that. To me i think of it like a deal from sony to the hardware provider, you buy in bulk and save money.

 

Part of me thinks Sony over reacted with the 8 gigs of gddr5. Windows 8 can get by with 1 and recommends 4 while 32 CU AMD parts gets by with 3 gigs. Im still have a hard time reasoning the need for 8 gigs with 8 jags and 18 CU setup. Seems like overkill. I hoping this decision doesnt hurt Sony in the long run.

Didnt MS spent north of 1 billion for an extra 256 mb? Has ram become that cheap?

 

I hate to say it but you are totally correct. Can't you help but wonder what nintendo is going to do now? All they could do is try to innovate and keep releasing those yearly mario games.

 

Well, I have a strong feeling that is as good as it is going get, so you might want to get to work on that bridge...

 

Who knows what the margin is. But any customer who purchases 4x as much product as your next best customer has a good deal of negotiating power, imo. eg: walmart, apple

 

well either way we will know in a few months. Isn't ms's count down supposed to end before june ?

 

I really think they felt the need to swing for the fences which is one reason to have this show so soon even before hardware was ready.

They are playing catch up form last gen not meeting expectations and having 360 and Wii take so much market share compared to PS2.

will probably work for them but you know what they say about peaking too early


plus as mentioned earlier like MS, they know 8GB was necessary to supplement all of the additional social and gamer creature comforts they both want to offer. (GDDR5 though?) wow

 

Of course there is a thing like contracts that get in the way. Nvidia and AMD have been buying gddr 5 for years now and most likely have large orders in for the next few years. Sony will have to slot in between them. Also if sony is using higher density chips the factorys may simply not be able to produce enough to give sony a discount , the price may actually go up for sony.

 

I doubt 5-7 gens of amd and nvidia gpus only manage to move 5-10 million parts with highend ram over a 5-7 year period.

 

RAM is the number one thing developpers tend to talk about running out of.
But you're saying this is unbalanced, no need for so much high speed memory? just a regular heirachy of system ram & faster VRAM + caches, with paging mechanisms going on to manage it?

personally I always thought the amount of fast memory needed would be bound by the size of the final image, some multiple for overdraw obviously.

i wondered if a console could have a hardware managed cache (i.e. driven by texture lookup so its aware of miplevels) large enough to hold a frames worth of source data, from frame to frame.. has anything ever done that?
it seems like this is a smarter vs harder issue

 

I'm beginning to think I am the only one who likes the new controller.

 

Sure, except the ram market is already very competitive and margins probably aren't that high, so there won't be a lot of room to move.

 

8 gigs on durango was probably feasible because its ddr3. But 8 gigs of gddr5? I want Sony to swing for fences but they could of done that with more CUs.

 

Complaining about RAM on consoles common when they came with very little while being shared between the gpu and cpu. But i havent heard anyone complain about 7970 or 680 lacking RAM.

And MS needs confound me even further with its ddr3 and only 12 CUs.

 

if that is correct.

 

What about the games coming for it?

 

Werll most of the specs were correct so I gues microsoft could go 16GB's of ram but they'd have a hard time showing much difference other then more multitasking..? to justify the increased cost.

 

Killzone Shadow Fall blew my mind, I expected a big leap but not of this magnitude! Yep a new graphics benchmark has been set, including the PC. I wonder what resolution it's rendered at, has to be 1080p with dat 8gig GDDR5 ram right?

 

Honestly, I don't hate it. It's just different from the tried and true, so it's the typical adjustment period as per usual with change. But, I really think it looks nice from that angle, no matter how stupid the reason. I'm sure once I try it out, it'll grow on me.

 

It kills the idea that 4 of the CUs are somehow different or physically separated from the rest like many here were speculating.