NPD October 2008

Vgchartz just recently began "adjusting" their 360 others figures in response to this following article (though theyd never admit it, the article hit various forums last week and vgchartz figures suddenly showed a major 360 spike the next week):

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=202230

 

Can we stop using VGcharts?

VGcharts is pretty much as reliable as me pulling numbers out of my own ass.

 

I prefer nextgenwar (or something close not sure of the name) when I search for a quick reminder of the overall figures.

 

http://nexgenwars.com/

You mean this site, which has Wii at 24 million? It looks like they haven't done anything to the site for a long time and their auto-update thing haven't taken account for anything that has happened, as their numbers are way off.

 

Well I should I said used to prefer... I haven't visit for a while and well...
way off that's it.

Interestingly only the 360 is compliant with their prediction which means that at some point their system was OK.
But the pS3 as catch up in sales rate, and the Wii... they need a good update for sure

 

Weird site now, the numbers are live counters.

 

OK? I had a look a year or two ago , after MS mentioned the number of xbox360 consoles manufactured IIRC 10.4 million, + that site was showing ~13million xbox360's sold

 

whoa, hadn't seen that info... price point looking good for Ms world wide...

 

Ms claims to have to sell sony 3:1 during black fryday:
http://www.edge-online.com/news/microsoft-claims-31-360-ps3-black-friday-sales

They also claim that it's their best black fryday weekend so far.

 

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/nintendo-nets-6-profit-off-each-wii

There's some info in this article about how much software Nintendo is expected to sell compared to 360 and PS3.

 

The software numbers might be right, but that 6$ profit for each Wii is way off, it has to be much more than that per Wii.

 

I was thinking the same thing which is why I didn't highlight that part of the article.
Then again,$6 might not seem like a lot to us,but in an industry where you are traditionally hundreds in the hole to start with,that $6 ahead might represent a huge number relatively speaking.

 

Yeah $6 per Wii sounds a bit off to me as well. I mean let's not forget we're talking about a console that was designed and produced from the very beginning to be profitable. Now we all know Nintendo have been around in this game for along time, I find it hard to believe they would create a system from the outset to be profitable and only allows them to make $6 per machine. Now if we were to double that figure or perhaps bring it closer to the $15 mark then we may find ourselves a little nearer to the actual figure?

Of course $6 x 33 million or however many Wii's have been sold at this point is a serious amount of money but I just feel Nintendo would be looking to do better than that right from release day. Pure speculation on my part but here in the UK I reckon the RRP could drop to as low as £120 and still think there would be enough of a margin for all parties involved to make a profit.

 

Has Nintendo made any die shrinks?

 

In the gameindustry report they states that MS did 25% beter than last year.
Does somebody remind of last year NPD result for november?

 

I think they meant a 25% increase for just Black Friday, rather than the entire month, but here are Nov07 numbers:

PS2 496k
PS3 466k
PSP 567k
360 770k
Wii 981k
DS 1,530k

 

I think too that they just mean it for black fryday.
But I asked just to have a figure about how sales could look

 

The $6 figure discredits the whole thing IMO. Seeing the introduction 'an analyst says', my reaction was 'this analyst is a chump' and I stopped reading. $6 is ridiculously low; I'd say $60 is probably too small a margin for what Nintendo make too! If not, they have the world's worst manufacturing contracts!

I don't think that article, that analysts' numbers, are any sane basis for discussion.

 

I would have believed it if the $6 referred to third party software titles, I guess. Or if this was true at launch, but now no longer. Otherwise, if this were true then Nintendo suck ...

 

Ergo, it's not true. Anyway, the article says in the same breath that MS *may* be breaking even now. Isn't it widely accepted that MS has been making (small) money in the last few months already?