more absurd comments from nintendo. they are seriously out of touch with what gamers want.
http://cube.ign.com/articles/593/593733p1.html?fromint=1
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nintendo comments on revolution
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Yah, I don't think Nintendo really knows what they're doing anymore. I like the Gamecube. I just bought it a few weeks ago, and I like the games I have. But, I don't think Revolution sounds like a very wise decision. I'm all for innovating new types of gameplay, but it's proven time and time again that the systems with the best graphics and the best 3rd party support are the wons that win big. If Revolution can't keep up in terms of graphics, as they keep suggesting, and the new "innovative" features don't appeal to 3rd party in the face of rapidly escalating development costs, Nintendo will basically have dug its own grave. Nintendo will go the way of Sega, for the home console market. Honestly, I think that's what will happen.
I disagree. I think making a console that is fundamentally different is the best thing Nintendo could do. Im really really curious how the damn thing will play games. Basically all they said is because the games play so differently it will require extra attention to port, if porting is possible. I still commend them that very very little is known about the revolution while ps3/X2 news/leaks are all over the internet. Will it have a controller that you grip in each hand and output to 2 televisions, or 1 television and 1 pc monitor? Boggles the mind. They have a chance of making sony and ms look old and boring if they truly deliver a new type of experience. They could even win the NextGen race.
btw, Im no nintendo fanboy. I've never owned a Nintendo console.
btw, Im no nintendo fanboy. I've never owned a Nintendo console.
They keep saying this. Is the DS appealing to any new gamers, or only existing GBA owners? Given sales are no better than GBA's I'm thinking they HAVEN'T tapped a new market, which bodes badly for Revolution
Evil_Cloud
Veteran
hovz said:
Why is that? Didn't Iwata state previous year that Revolution would be on a par with Microsoft's and Sony's efforts in the power department? Didn't they commit tons of resources to the new platform? Didn't they said it would be all about the games? Wasn't there going to be backwards compatibility?
He's just talking about the innovation he suggests Revolution will offer over the other platforms. What it is I don't know, but as one of the largest companies in the industry, do you honestly think Nintendo doesn't do any massive research before making/launching a new product?
Nintendo is profitable and has always been profitable, I don't see why they would leave the market any time soon.
If they do not have 3rd party support revoloution will be dead in the water. It's as simple as that... He says the gamers will determine what kind of 3rd party support they have, but in reality, that isn't true. Nintendo needs to be pro-active in securing develoeprs for that platform. long before the system is released.
We all know it's the games that attract gamers, not the system itself. The more you provide, the more gamers will want your system.
We all know it's the games that attract gamers, not the system itself. The more you provide, the more gamers will want your system.
Qroach said:
I can't agree more. But IMO Nintendo is in deadlock. They tried to gather more 3rd party support with various methods this gen; nevertheless they failed:
A) handing out franchises:
Nintendo tried to get more 3rd party developers by giving them one of their franchises. e.g.: Zelda -> Capcom; Capcom -> RE, Killer7; Starfox -> Namco; Namco -> Tales, Baten Kaitos
Of the exclusive Capcom titles only RE:Remale; RE:Zero remain
Verdict: midly successful
B) easy developing:
"The GCN is easy to develop for; thus more 3rd party" the general formula that we heard at the beginning of this gen; so far this turned out to be wrong.
Verdict: ?
C) GBA-GCN link:
This feature should have used Nintendo's dominance in the portable sector to gather more support for the GCN:
Verdict: total failure
I am afraid there's little more Nintendo can do to increase 3rd party support. Sure they can reduce licensing fee (they did it with EA, I believe) but it looks like it doesn't change anything. Even before the next gen has started, 3rd party support seems to concentrate on PS3 and XboxNext (anounced next-gen titles are only Xbox2/PS3 at the moment)....
Evil_Cloud
Veteran
Blade said:
Like Nintendo would ever dump 3rd party developers, Iwata's statement was clearly intended in another way.
First, let us wait untill we know what Revolution exactly is, so we can discuss it in a decent manner at a later time. Now it's just picking on some unclear statements.
"If the next generation platforms are going to create even more gorgeous looking games using further enhanced functionality, and if that next-gen market can still expand the games industry, then I'm afraid that third-parties may not support Nintendo," he said.
This is the statement that caught my eye the most. From the way it sounds, Nintendo is not tryin' to keep up in the graphics race. I know that graphics are not everything, but I'd say the majority of people, especially casual gamers, will take notice because of graphics first. If the Revolution shows up, and the TV adverts show games that have moderate graphics, and the PS3 and Xbox2 commercials are showing games with graphics with much higher quality, the Revolution will be a losing system. Gameplay innovation or no, the Nintendo is going to have to compete on all levels. Nintendo is taking a huge risk on this system, and I think it could sink them.
This is the statement that caught my eye the most. From the way it sounds, Nintendo is not tryin' to keep up in the graphics race. I know that graphics are not everything, but I'd say the majority of people, especially casual gamers, will take notice because of graphics first. If the Revolution shows up, and the TV adverts show games that have moderate graphics, and the PS3 and Xbox2 commercials are showing games with graphics with much higher quality, the Revolution will be a losing system. Gameplay innovation or no, the Nintendo is going to have to compete on all levels. Nintendo is taking a huge risk on this system, and I think it could sink them.
RingWraith
Newcomer
TEXAN said:
Lets say you are correct in your assumption. If it happened that they withdrew from the home console market it would be a choice of preference rather than one influenced by finance. We are talking about a company that has been around for over a hundred years making games of one sort or another. Almost half their income has nothing to do with the handheld or home console market. (Cartoons, merchandising, etc.) Regardless of how the Revolution fares Nintendo will be around for a long time to come in one way or another.
As far as graphics power goes the Revolution and the neXt Box are essentially using the same VPU tech. IMO this next round will show Nintendo closing the performance delta with Microsoft when compared to this generation.
Spidermate
Regular
hovz said:
He should have kep a lot of those commens to himself. This kind of attitude will only turn fans away from their next console. He could have at least lied or acted like their next console was competitive.
He's not saying that at all. At no time does he say Nintendo will replace great graphics with innovation. He's saying that if better graphics alone is enough then Nintendo will not gain third party support from their new features. But if people end up wanting more then just improved graphics then Nintendo could gain big support from third parties.
We've seen comments in the past from the same man saying very clearly that Nintendo are not going to be behind in the graphics department. They just believe that better graphics alone are not enough for next gen.
Third party support I agree with, but not graphics. PS2 doesn't have the best graphics and neither did PS1.
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