The fact that Microsoft is looking like it is going with a 2 tier console approach right out of the gate lends me to believe that Anaconda might of have been pushed a little further PS5. At least in terms of brute GPU power. But even then I'm skeptical the differences between them will be greater than 10%.
Next Generation Hardware Speculation with a Technical Spin [post E3 2019, pre GDC 2020] [XBSX, PS5]
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Not all consoles will be sold at a loss. The question isn't so much of how much are they losing but how quickly will the costs come down. Costs aren't static over the life of a console. Are they taking a loss on the first 5 million? 10 million? 25 million units?
If they're predicting to sell 100 million units over the lifetime of the console, taking a loss on the first 5-10 may not be a big issue especially if it allows them to secure an install base and become the leading platform. It all depends on how quickly costs come down.
I think this is the reason I believe the rumored specs for PS5: "small" SOC with 40 CU's and a 256-bit bus, but at a high clock of 2+ GHz. I think this will scale better for costs long term. A smaller chip should allow them to jump to new nodes sooner.
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You seem to think Microsoft is willing to take revenue money from e.g. Office sales and invest it into XBox.
That's not only a long shot, it's also very unlikely at this point.
After ~20 years of activity, the Xbox division is most probably expected to be self-suficient right now, and it's likely that they can only spend the money they earned.
Same thing with Sony. Sure, there can be many synergies between the different divisions, but the smartphone division definitely isn't getting money from Playstation software sales.
Expect the several divisions from very large corporations to work much more like independent smaller companies than a single monolithic company.
And if the amount of money console makers can invest is dependent on their past revenues, expect Sony to have a lot more cash to burn than Microsoft's Xbox division.
The only exception I'd see in this scenario is if Microsoft is planning to use 9th-gen Xbox machines as general processing clusters for Azure services, in which case they'd get investment from both divisions.
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Xbox 360 2?
Think Tom was being humorous while leaving a fairly blatant hint in there....
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My personal reasoning is simple. If you aim for best possible hardware, and best entry point, it gives you ability to push it just a bit higher then team building one console to fit it all.
So, nothing to do with design team or money, just strat.
So, nothing to do with design team or money, just strat.
My thinking as well. Though it ain't going Pro vs X level of difference. Much more marginal.
It's tough to not let information leak into our thinking subconsciously. Things like tweets and leaks and hype things start seeping into our judgement biasing the results.
I think careful consideration of the facts would showcase that the two devices should be very close in power; so likely we're looking at a 50/50 of who will be more powerful if they are arriving at the same price point.
The only situation where I would bias towards MS to be more powerful is if the 2 SKU strategy is there, in which they can afford to create an even higher price point knowing that the lower price point is also fulfilled. With a single SKU you've got price point limits.
Office - No
Azzure - Yes
They already said they are developing the chip with input from the Azzure team.
Could use them in the cloud for remote desktop or other such tasks, it's not like 2am is going to be used by a lot by gamers, where latency really matters.
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Is there confirmation that Azure will be hosting 9th-gen Xboxes for anything other than XCloud?
If not, then the Xbox division would be little more than a client of Azure's network infrastructures and said input from the Azure team would be related to external I/O bandwidth, latency, video codec performance and little more.
It is the most popular console here.
It is the single most absurd claim so far, but also the most credible?
5700XT is the max what AMD has right now, that's without RT lögic. More we don't have to say i think
Journalists and credible sources.... lol
This! I said previously 2080 and 2080TI will be thrown around as buzzwords, but the perf might not necessarily be 1:1.
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