Billy Idol
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Yeah, furthermore it seems that you get a kinect devise included. And maybe other things we did not even hear about. But then, also the 500$ is just a rumor...
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Yeah, furthermore it seems that you get a kinect devise included. And maybe other things we did not even hear about. But then, also the 500$ is just a rumor...
Even the way the rumor was stated was overblown. Something like "it's gonna be expensive, you know, $500/$300 on contract or something"
I dont think Thurrott has any idea, he's just differentiating it from the low cost Stingray 360 and potential media Xbox thingie. Those are cheap, Durango the full "expensive" box by compare, was his main thrust imo.
That said, 399 for the full monty SKU has always seemed pretty reasonable. There's going to be a whole lotta tech and engineering packed in with Kinetic 2.0 and all, and Microsoft is greedy. Plus the next real option is 299, and that seems unfathomable given thats the current price of the higher 360 SKU!
Hell the reason Durango may be low specced is a philosophy change, they dont want big hardware losses anymore. If that's the case, 399 could be reasonable.
I dont think Thurrott has any idea, he's just differentiating it from the low cost Stingray 360 and potential media Xbox thingie. Those are cheap, Durango the full "expensive" box by compare, was his main thrust imo.
That said, 399 for the full monty SKU has always seemed pretty reasonable. There's going to be a whole lotta tech and engineering packed in with Kinetic 2.0 and all, and Microsoft is greedy. Plus the next real option is 299, and that seems unfathomable given thats the current price of the higher 360 SKU!
Hell the reason Durango may be low specced is a philosophy change, they dont want big hardware losses anymore. If that's the case, 399 could be reasonable.
I don't understand how MS plan on charging $500 for Durango, that's a bit much given the specs.
I mean PS4 is definitely not going to be $599 again, so will probably also be around $500 or less.
Why would people get Durango when they can get the more powerful PS4 which works offline and plays used games etc.
I really thought they'd attempt to undercut Sony on price given their much lower BoM, but it does seem that bkilian's 'MBA's with $ signs in their eyes' (who are running the Xbox division now) are only interested in one thing - profit.
Please, I beg people on this forum to ignore the $500 remark made my Paul Thurott. It was 100% an off the cuff "I'm making stuff up" remark that the Internet should not be taking seriously.
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Well, it'll include Kinect, and i'm guessing the HDD will be at least 500GB (as per the rumours).
They don't need a huge HDD as it doesn't operate as a DVR anymore (like it did in the MS roadmap)
Given that info on pricing came from Paul Thurrot, i'm inclined to treat it seriously - he got the codename for the Xbox TV right, and nothing else he said contradicted other info we have.
Why would 350 dollars (for example) be any less "real" than 300 or 400? That does not compute.
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Really? Someone should ask him about it on twitter, whether the $500 figure is just him putting a number to 'it's going to be expensive' or if he's actually been told it's $500.
I'd be inclined to think it'd be lower priced but with the current MS management who knows.
At this point $399 is the only price pint they can pick because they cannot get away pulling an Xbox 360 Core and leave out critical parts if the system they actually need to push next gen. The base SKU MUST have a wireless controller, decent HDD size (at least 250 if not 320 or more) , WiFi, and obviously Kinect (absolutely must be in every box or no developer will take advantage of it).
There's also little to increase to make it worthwhile to spend $100 for a larger hard drive, especially when the tech enthusiasts know a 500GB, heck even 1TB 2.5" HD is less than the cost difference. It's like how Sony tried and failed not to have HDMI in the $499 PS3. People are not stupid.
When I look at it take way, unless they are including some pack in game, there will only be one effective SKU (or if there is more than one, then one obvious to buy).
He hasn't been told that. It's very clear what stuff he has been told from sources and that isn't it. Said the same thing on his What the Tech podcast today. What he has confirmed is he was told the phrase "always on" in January but has absolutely no idea to what it's meaning is and is rather annoyed the Internet keeps dreaming up worst case scenarios (I am too). He's also said Yuma specifically isn't happening this year.
He's said things that can be reasonably inferred: the clear goal of the next Xbox is more along the lines if its true original purpose, a living room box of which gaming is but one function of many. The sheer number of 360 media apps is proof of this. Also the $99 subsidy model will play a role, as it kicks tarts the worst part about a new cycle, getting people interested.
yea, gotta love people deciding what is or is not a good value when MS has not even revealed their plans, services, pricing structures, subscription models nor hardware.
Sony has a LOT left to tell us as well.
MS wins the sales race again next gen because their games, services and subscriptions will be more compelling to people who like Xbox and their games/services (majority of NA) .
See, anyone can play.
Sony has a LOT left to tell us as well.
MS wins the sales race again next gen because their games, services and subscriptions will be more compelling to people who like Xbox and their games/services (majority of NA) .
See, anyone can play.
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http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/10/4208970/next-xbox-tv-entertainment-plans
So, a regular model that works in combination with an existing set top box, and another cheaper set top box version.
So, a regular model that works in combination with an existing set top box, and another cheaper set top box version.
There's been a few of us predicting that kind of functionality from the Durangonline ever since the HDMI in was leaked.
I wonder if the Duradvert will pause adverts in streaming services if you leave the room to go for a piss during the break?
That would be pure evil. I'll give 50:50 odds on Xbox doing it.
I wonder if the Duradvert will pause adverts in streaming services if you leave the room to go for a piss during the break?
That would be pure evil. I'll give 50:50 odds on Xbox doing it.
So, lets hope for the rest of the world that this is something that will be supported in all the different regions of the world, and that it has a really really low power mode when doing this
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That would be evil but funny as hell. Reminds me of certain scene from A Clockwork Orange..
Or that you can disable all the TV features and just use the gaming part, and turn if off when you're not using the console.
Most people are going to be using a DVR to watch TV. Xbox is going to have Cable Card or the ability to tune in Direct TV channels? Doesn't seem likely, as it would take too long to qualify.
So presumably it would connect to other DVRs and then use an IR blaster to control the DVRs?
Most people are going to be using a DVR to watch TV. Xbox is going to have Cable Card or the ability to tune in Direct TV channels? Doesn't seem likely, as it would take too long to qualify.
So presumably it would connect to other DVRs and then use an IR blaster to control the DVRs?
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Presumably yeah. And then the truly set top box Xbox TV version to be released early next year.
Why not use the IR in Kinect, nah blasters work better unless your stuff is hidden in the house like mine. So I hope Durango allows media center to use Kinect, or still supports media center, otherwise I will have some parts for sale if Durango offers a better experience.
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Only the tuner needs to be qualified, not the box itself. I would assume a tour would be standalone and networked like the HDHoneRun Prime, so other computers can access it without Durango being on. It also avoids costs in the base SKU if its a separate accessory.
Scott_Arm's video is probably closer to the Durango experience, but you can also look at stuff from a Logitech Revue. This was a true live TV pass-through device (also Google TV) which will explain how the actual connectivity and UI works as well.
There are more elegant solutions than IR blasters out there now to simplify the Durango's ability to control your cable box (HDMI control, IP control the same way IOS apps work, etc) but as a last resort blasters would work. They could have a setup process that would use HDMI or IP for supported boxes and then fall back to blasters for older models.
I think this is a great feature if true, if the overall experience is good, it would be great to do everything through this single box (and input).
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