Microsoft should have known about such tendencies and come up with a sales pitch that didn't talk so much about restrictions and what you can't do. They were telling people that in their last system they can sell their games wherever but with this 500 dollar system they can't do that. In return for ... what you may want but that may not be what the rest of the country wants. This system is intended to break into a demographic that uses live TV as the main source of entertainment, NFL watching folks and the Wii people. That was not a pitch that is gonna work for them.
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Microsoft should have known about such tendencies and come up with a sales pitch that didn't talk so much about restrictions and what you can't do. They were telling people that in their last system they can sell their games wherever but with this 500 dollar system they can't do that. In return for ... what you may want but that may not be what the rest of the country wants. This system is intended to break into a demographic that uses live TV as the main source of entertainment, NFL watching folks and the Wii people. That was not a pitch that is gonna work for them.
yeah I forgot about the cancelled round table and vaguely remembered pulled interviews. Like I said before even Major Nelson was defensive and cutting interviews short... even grabbed the mic out of someone's hand. He is supposed to be one of US
It wasn't new info. They said the console would phone home once every 24 hours normally, or once every hour if someone was playing from your library. That was stated very early on. I can't and won't bother trying to find it anymore. I either read it or saw it in an interview, but it was not new to me.
Wny not just say "game" instead of "shared game" and "library" instead of "shared library" ?
May 21st : Xbox Reveal. 2 and a half hours! Can someone point me to where game sharing was announced so i can hear it for myself?
Read it, and its ambiguous, which I'm not going to discuss just yet. I've actually spent the better part of an hour looking up info on this, but I've been unable to pinpoint the exact reveal of game sharing. It should be in the May 21st event, but that's an hour and a half video. If someone can point me to where in it game sharing was announced, I'd be appreciative.
Dumbo, they clearly confirmed after the DRM switch that is was shared but only one person could at at play at any one time with a check every hour to ensure same. Bkilian also confirmed same after speaking with a contact within MS. It was set up to encourage you to get your own copy instead of waiting until your "family member" finished the game.
Cranky posted more info after your post.
Cranky posted more info after your post.
I don't think it was announced then ... only on the website a week or 2 later. At first execs would just tell people to look at the website.
It wasn't, as far as I know.
Maybe you don't share everything. Think parental controls. Maybe it was just language choice.
I would check some live blogs to see if they mentioned it cause you get a time stamp. I checked IGN and didn't see it
So when was game sharing revealed?
It's an important part of the DRM scheme. If MS didn't take 2 minutes to present this concept in a clear and positive light, they have to accept a considerable amount of the blame, instead of accusing the public of being ignorant.I hate to tell you but you are flat out wrong here. This is NOTHING ambiguous about that statement. A public statement like that has be cleared through numerous channels. Legal would not allow an ambiguous statement out in the wild. There are no asterisks referencing fine print. What you read was an accurate description of the service. Is it potentially missing details - sure. However, those details must fall far below the level of warranting an asterisk and fine print.
This misunderstanding is where MS really dropped the ball. They assumed people would read the text and recognize it for what it was. However, they failed miserably in anticipating the way fanboys and media would twist and contort facts into click-bait tweets and articles.
The truly mind boggling part of this is that MS was actually the MOST pro-consumer of the companies. They were actively trying introduce new consumer abilities and hasten the transition to all digital - which is a win-win for everybody but retail. They were even jumping through hoops to enable disc-lovers to operate business as usual given the constraints of forward looking system. Make no mistake, these DRM changes are DETRIMENTAL to consumers in the long run. Of course that doesn't fit the narrative.
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So when was game sharing revealed?
They announced something during the reveal. However, they really dropped the ball on communicating this issue. Most likely 1 of 2 thing happened. First, they hadn't fully communicated this to all of the developers yet leading them to not emphasize it, or they really thought that what they presented was sufficient - which was a colossal mistake.
So when was game sharing revealed?
June 6th, http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license
MS didn't, but members in this thread have said the sharing situation was extremely obvious with zero confusion, and only idiots and fanboys confused the situation. Hence my interest in finding out exactly what was communicated when to decided for myself if it was MS's poor communication or the public's misinterpretation.
By accounts, it wasn't until the 6th June that MS actually explained what their sharing policy was, to whoever happened to go and look it up, which means -1 point for MS for miscommunication.
Given three games in your shared library, X, Y, and Z, and three family members, A, B, C, if A is playing X, can B and C play Y and Z, or can only one game in total be shared from your library and B and C would have to wait their turn? The phrasing suggests the latter, which would be incorrect. A clearer statement would be:Official explanation said:
The specific pronoun 'each' is very important in being clear.
From what I can see, MS's original communication was non-existent. During the May 21st reveal, they could have shown a little promo vid (similar to Sony's UI vid that was released a little while ago) that showcased the user experience and how game sharing was a big step forward. Failing that, they could have released a very simple, obvious PR statement like:
What MS should have said said:
Obviously a trained copyrighter spending more time on it could spruce it up. But MS failed utterly to communicate this. The end result was a lot of guesswork and confusion for a couple of weeks, by which time the miscommunication had snowballed.
Although the Internet failed to re-evaluate their understanding as new information came out, I don't blame the situation on them as Joker et al do. This whole sorry mess is principally down to MS failing to communicate their vision. Considering shoe-string budget Kickstarter's are capable of creating really swish, informative promo videos (DSLRs for the win!), it's pretty shocking that MS can be so clumsy in this regard. They need to update their whole PR and Communication division to get with the programme!
Exactly by creating a distinction between game and "shared game" as a placeholder for future unspecified clarification. I would hope we wouldn't have to wait for the EULA
Microsoft had a big Xbox One placement on the Xbox 360, and it had the same details as the website, so coverage of the information should have been very good and easily accessible for gamers. It was a huge banner in the middle of the screen when you turned on your xbox. If you clicked on it all of that information was included, as far as I remember.
From my piont of view Microsoft could have done better explaining there plans .
But there was a problem because of leaks most of the so called gamers had already make up there mind after reading countless scare stories .
Just take the time to read a fair few opinion pieces that are out there before E3 most were very anti Microsoft and there plans .
Now these pieces where being written based on here say ........they turned public opinion against Microsoft before the facts where known .
Then Microsoft made there statement at E3 the facts where listed on there web site for all to pour over and ponder .
But no one did ....they just ran with the negative stunt Sony ran at there press conference hours later .
At that point no one was interested in what Microsoft's policy was or was not all about the facts didn't matter .
It was bad for the gamer and anything Microsoft said from that point on was a lie to trick gamers into going along with having there so called rights stripped away from them .
The truth is we were all let down by the gaming press they did not do there job in my opinion. Which is to look at the facts from a neutral starting point then report the facts to there readers .
Now its over go take a look at the gaming press lots are realizing there mistake and ony now are softening there stance on Microsoft's original plans .
But there was a problem because of leaks most of the so called gamers had already make up there mind after reading countless scare stories .
Just take the time to read a fair few opinion pieces that are out there before E3 most were very anti Microsoft and there plans .
Now these pieces where being written based on here say ........they turned public opinion against Microsoft before the facts where known .
Then Microsoft made there statement at E3 the facts where listed on there web site for all to pour over and ponder .
But no one did ....they just ran with the negative stunt Sony ran at there press conference hours later .
At that point no one was interested in what Microsoft's policy was or was not all about the facts didn't matter .
It was bad for the gamer and anything Microsoft said from that point on was a lie to trick gamers into going along with having there so called rights stripped away from them .
The truth is we were all let down by the gaming press they did not do there job in my opinion. Which is to look at the facts from a neutral starting point then report the facts to there readers .
Now its over go take a look at the gaming press lots are realizing there mistake and ony now are softening there stance on Microsoft's original plans .
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