Unless you can add friends to your family plan, the way some people do with cell phone plans.
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Unless you can add friends to your family plan, the way some people do with cell phone plans.
I take is that there are issues with yield and MS has opted to eat it till they get the manufacturing figured out rather than down-clock the hardware. That would be consistent with what Crazy Butt Train and Major Nelson said and the most likely decision from MS at this point anyway.
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It's pretty simple .. the publisher will have a relationship with a games store (eg. "games stop", "EB" etc.) and they(the store) will pass on a portion of the $ to the publisher for tradeins ... The end user will still be able to buy seconds from there games store assuming the store plays nice with publishers...
It's a good model for publishers, and maybe the publisher will start having a better active relationship with stores ...
This could be a good thing!
It's a good model for publishers, and maybe the publisher will start having a better active relationship with stores ...
This could be a good thing!
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Why doesn't GAF ask CBOAT whether he also corroborates the downclock rumours or hasn't heard either way. I don't think he knows they are false because he'd probably come out and say it if that was the case, so the most likely scenario is that he's heard of the ESRAM issues but not of the downclock.
Wow. Some part of this info is weird. So any 10 'friend and family' of yours can access your shared game anytime, on any XOne console. There has to be a limit to your Shared library right?
Anyway, this has a lot of positives and negatives for some people. Strangely enough this doesn't affect me in any possible way. lol
Anyway, this has a lot of positives and negatives for some people. Strangely enough this doesn't affect me in any possible way. lol
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You probably can, how the hell are MS going to check whether you're related to someone anyway. The family plan requirement just makes it more of a hassle for casual game sharing between friends as it always has to be the same 10 people and you have to trust the person paying with having control of your Live account.
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It has been confirmed by cboat -I don't know about thuway that much- and by other respectable people -they admitted something was wrong- here. If you know what I mean.
I am surprised anyone could actually fully believe Major Nelson when it comes to this. Whatever he says we couldn't have known.
Either way, shouldn't we officially stop giving a sh*t now?
Yep, which is why MS probably feels comfortable making that number 10, it's probably way beyond anything anyone would ever reasonably use but makes for a good bullet point.
I know now that downclocks aren't going to happen, but it's the most positive thing I can get from Major Nelson's words. You had read the knowledgeable people here on the subject, and those who are true insiders never denied it. There was a problem, I think.
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What, it's probably true - did Major Nelson admit the RROD issues or deny them?
I am not familiar with CBOAT but just reading through what he has leaked he definitely seems to deserve the top tier insider status he has on neoGAF.
I believe I characterized it as a tempest in a tea pot yesterday....
You will have to teach me how to do that, because I am in the same situation as you. I'd be eternally grateful.
The console is aimed at casual and core audience, but for casual, the simpler, the better...
Don't take it personally, I just meant the rabid gaming community as a whole...
With the sure amount of churn at other forums it's impossible for me to keep up on everything, but from what I saw, it didn't seem like everyone was talking about downclocks, but they all were talking about yield concerns and issues. Of course some folks were talking about downclocks, but I didn't see that [the downclocks] being all out confirmed -- only yield issues being confirmed.
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That's true - ESRAM issues seem likely with downclocks being a possible consequence.
None of the insiders corroborating the ESRAM issues have denied the downclock rumours so it's quite possible that they've just heard 'MS is having issues with ESRAM' and haven't heard about a downclock.
But because a downclock is plausible given they're having issues they're not denying it (nor confirming it).
None of the insiders corroborating the ESRAM issues have denied the downclock rumours so it's quite possible that they've just heard 'MS is having issues with ESRAM' and haven't heard about a downclock.
But because a downclock is plausible given they're having issues they're not denying it (nor confirming it).
HollovVpo1nt
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This while share games with family members sounds way better than it is. Here is the quote:
"Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games.* Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you."
Note the 'inside your home' part. All this means, I think, is that if you have 2 Xbox Ones in your home, you can share a game. This feature is only handy is you have more than 1 Xbox One in your home. Having said that, I think it's fucking insulting that Microsoft sees it as a feature that a guest in my home can play games on my Xbox One for free. Or anyone else for that matter. How stupid does MS think I am?
Where did I say that? I said that usually when my ISP craps out, I pass time time by playing video games. Or to rephrase, when my ISP craps out, I usually pass time by playing games.
"Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games.* Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you."
Note the 'inside your home' part. All this means, I think, is that if you have 2 Xbox Ones in your home, you can share a game. This feature is only handy is you have more than 1 Xbox One in your home. Having said that, I think it's fucking insulting that Microsoft sees it as a feature that a guest in my home can play games on my Xbox One for free. Or anyone else for that matter. How stupid does MS think I am?
Where did I say that? I said that usually when my ISP craps out, I pass time time by playing video games. Or to rephrase, when my ISP craps out, I usually pass time by playing games.
No worries. :smile: I do think its fair to be somewhat concerned about yield impact on an already likely supply constrained machine but again if they do fall behind at launch they can catch up just as the PS3 did.
Enthusiast like us however might not be able to get a hold of one for a while...
if you have an android phone get an app called pda net. that's it. you dont need a tethering plan, it will set your phone up as a wifi hotspot. phone does not need to be rooted.
it's 7 bucks for the pay version (worth it anyway imo) but the free limited version would seem to work ok for this check in.
i wont be disingenuous and say joe (or jane) six pack really knows how to do this though.
Mine works fine but when I am waiting for a router replacement -bad weather, a strong storm- it's usually a day and it can take up to 2 days or so, it depends.
I just hope that they remove the 24 hours imposition by the end of the life cycle of the console, I don't want to have a paperweight afterwards.
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