Intel ARC GPUs, Xe Architecture for dGPUs [2022-]
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DavidGraham
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The B580 is still way behind the 4060 in ray tracing, despite the bigger VRAM.
Flappy Pannus
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DF seems have better RT results that HUB - aside from Miles Morales.
One thing that caught my attention in the HUB review is that they actually left Physx ON for Metro Exodus, which should be killing performance on anything but Nvidia. DF used maxxed out RT and just disabled Physx:
What's more concerning is the frame time blips in several games (F1, Cyberpunk, Alan Wake, Spiderman). Those are deal breakers for me, hopefully they can be sorted. It further reinforces why reviews that only focus on average/1% lows are so inadequate, HUB didn't catch those stutters because they're not measuring it. Periodic brief stutters, even for a <1 min benchmark run, will not necessarily be detectable by 1% lows.
Even at 1080p, you can see some games hitting that 8GB vram wall:
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DegustatoR
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My (previously mentioned) wait is over. Got more or less exact confirmation for that.
However as 3070Ti owner who has about 3 hours in a week to play satisfactory...
Everything in BMG-G21 looks good... ...for BMG-G31. Which was seen as non-R&D form in shipping manifests on 3rd of December. I am not expecting it to be released before the two giants have shown how next gen is truly defined.
After that, It's viability as end user product against competition and it's possible pricing window will define if it is released and if yes, it's classification.
However as 3070Ti owner who has about 3 hours in a week to play satisfactory...
Everything in BMG-G21 looks good... ...for BMG-G31. Which was seen as non-R&D form in shipping manifests on 3rd of December. I am not expecting it to be released before the two giants have shown how next gen is truly defined.
After that, It's viability as end user product against competition and it's possible pricing window will define if it is released and if yes, it's classification.
Yea, I hit that VRAM wall really hard on HB2 a handful of times. It's the only thing that is keeping my 3070 from lasting several more years to 2028
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High demand for Intel's Arc B580 as retailers receive weekly restocks — demand outstrips supply for the new $249 GPU champion
www.tomshardware.com
High demand for Intel's Arc B580 as retailers receive weekly restocks — demand outstrips supply for the new $249 GPU champion
Finally, a welcome change of pace for the beleaguered company.
DavidGraham
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Seems Intel memory management is still sub par, they still rely on Re-BAR to handle, as without it performance massively drops, this excludes Intel as a viable upgrade path for older systems.
Why they are going back to a standard IMR? Does this make sense? I always thought that Tiled Base Render is the King under Rendering.
I will have the a770 for awhile but it will be interesting to see if they release another faster version this generation. What would be great fun is if was like the old days where you could try unlocking cores and it was unknown whether you were getting an awesome deal or just a fine deal. If I'm honest though I think those days are gone and you would not attract many enthusiasts anyway.
Based on latest tests by hardware unboxed, performance drops in older systems even if the rebar is enabled. Common determinator seems to be cpu heavy game, so the drivers are not as optimized (or are optimized to newer cpus) as nVidia or AMD.
Which sort of makes sense. As new player in market, the resources will be easily shifted towards future, not past. Competition has lived thru the past times, so they have thw knowledge already for older cpus.
Too bad for the People with more than 3 years old hw though.
As someone that recently finished HB2 on a 3070. Yes, that 8GB wall is hit hard from time to time. At times the game can also be a little buggy and lose VRAM somewhere in there like some sort of memory leak.
I see possible bmg-g31 my only option from 3070ti. AMD RT performance is step backwards and 50 series prices will most likely out of my budget.
So hoping the best.
DegustatoR
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3070ti is on 4060ti level which means that it will probably be 5060 level in half a year, and anything above that will be an option for an upgrade. Which means $400+ probably which is also where a faster BMG will likely be - give or take a hundred.
Intel isn't doing anything magical, they simply launched a month before cards which they will actually compete with.
Yeah, well I have owned two 8GB cards which makes up last 6 years and my primary display is 2560x1440, so I am not going to buy another one. theoritically 5060ti or 5070 could be possible though 12gb was the memory I was looking for in 2-3 years ago but just could not tolerate the prices. 5070ti checks that but it Will most likely wayy over my budget.
Besides, I am not expecting miracle from Intel. I would be happy with competitive (in same price range) card with 16GB memory in 500-700 euros price class. (G21 cards cost around 350 euros here. AIB cards that is. Limited Edition Landed here in twin digit quantities.)
Besides, I am not expecting miracle from Intel. I would be happy with competitive (in same price range) card with 16GB memory in 500-700 euros price class. (G21 cards cost around 350 euros here. AIB cards that is. Limited Edition Landed here in twin digit quantities.)
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